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   Steve Hayes to Dr.Who   
   Re: US evangelicals voted for Trump. Bri   
   01 Feb 25 05:46:38   
   
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   From: hayesstw@telkomsa.net   
      
   On Fri, 31 Jan 2025 11:01:37 -0800, Dr.Who  wrote:   
      
   >On Jan 31, 2025, Steve Hayes wrote   
   >(Message-ID:<8f5ppjdf38fqjmqb5klqjk0dvo3uv0gkjg@4ax.com>):   
   >   
   >> US evangelicals voted for Trump. We need a better conversation   
   >>   
   >> By Dr Alastair Roberts   
   >>   
   >> White evangelicals in the US overwhelmingly support Donald Trump, but   
   >> their reasons are often misunderstood by their British counterparts.   
   >> Dr Alastair Roberts looks at the cultural and political forces at play   
   >>   
   >> Source: REUTERS/Octavio Jones   
   >> https://t.co/RrsytMABF6   
   >>   
   >> Gery Cuprisin prays with the congregation during an ‘Election Eve   
   >> Service of Prayer,’ in support of President Donald Trump at Suncoast   
   >> Liberty Fellowship in Largo, Florida.   
   >>   
   >> Separated by an ocean, American and British Christians often struggle   
   >> to understand each other’s politics.   
   >>   
   >> Americans are considerably more likely to be oblivious to British   
   >> politics than the other way around. However, notwithstanding the   
   >> extensive coverage of and even preoccupation with American politics in   
   >> British media, British observers often have highly misleading   
   >> impressions of the animating forces, the faultlines, and the   
   >> affiliations of American politics.   
   >>   
   >> Perhaps our supposed overfamiliarity with it prevents us from   
   >> recognising the foreignness and strangeness required to appreciate it   
   >> on its own terms.   
   >>   
   >> Evangelicals on this side of the Atlantic can find it difficult to   
   >> understand the extremely high levels of support for President Trump   
   >> among white American evangelicals (over 80%). Even more confusing -   
   >> and perhaps dismaying - for some may be the enthusiasm for Trump among   
   >> many prominent evangelical leaders, such as Franklin Graham, who   
   >> prayed at the inauguration.   
   >>   
   >> Many British Christian observers resonated more with Bishop Mariann   
   >> Budde’s much-discussed sermon, within which she expressed her concern   
   >> for “gay, lesbian and transgender children…who fear for their lives”,   
   >> for undocumented immigrants, and for refugees, asking President Trump   
   >> to show mercy.   
   >   
   >The reason they do not relate is because of their lack of knowledge in the   
   >things of God, and or, as in the “bishops” case, a willful resistance to   
   >the Word of God in such matters.   
   >   
   >“Undocumented Immigrants” are felons under the laws of the Law of the USA   
   >federal government. They are illegal, and are here because of those who   
   >sought to destroy the Republic as well as democracy.   
      
   And what, in your view *is* the "word of God" in such matters?   
      
   You seem to be equating the "Law of the USA" with "the word of God".   
   Do all US "Evangelicals" do that?   
      
   Brit Evangelicals, for the most part, do not equate the laws of the UK   
   with "the word of God".   
      
      
      
      
   >   
   >Those who do not understand lack normal sophistication.   
   >   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Read it all here:   
   >>   
   >> > -us-evangelicals-voted-for-trump-we-need-a-better-conversatio   
   /18874.article>   
   >   
      
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