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   Re: Watchtower Society Sells Sheol and S   
   01 Mar 25 14:07:06   
   
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   > To "go down to sheol" means to descend into the underworld. It is in   
   > reference to the afterlife abode of the soul. It is not a reference to   
   > "unconscious death."   
   >   
   > > https://hebrewwordlessons.com/2019/10/27/sheol-the-grave-geh   
   nna-hades-hell/   
   > >   
   > > Thus sheol is the grave   
   > > Thus hell is the grave.   
   >   
   > Nope. Not according to the Septuagint. Sheol is hades, just as the   
   > ancient Jewish translators wrote.   
   >   
   > Jesus said:   
   >   
   > "And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my   
   > church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it."   
   >   
   > Hades has gates, bub, just as in the Greek myths. The Old Testament   
   > also mentions the gates of Sheol. What a coincidence!   
   >   
   > Job 38:17   
   > Have the gates of death [sheol] been opened unto thee? or hast thou   
   > seen the doors of the shadow of death?   
   >   
   > Psalms 9:13   
   > Have mercy upon me, O LORD; consider my trouble which I suffer of them   
   > that hate me, thou that liftest me up from the gates of death [sheol]:   
   >   
   > Psalms 107:18   
   > Their soul abhorreth all manner of meat; and they draw near unto the   
   > gates of death [sheol].   
      
   Here you wander off base in regards to the things of God.   
   >   
   > What are the "gates of Hades" or the "gates of Sheol?"   
      
   Show you basis for this.   
   >   
   >   
   > Organized religion and imperial governments are the gates of Sheol   
   > today. These are the gates of Hades, or the Johachin and Boaz pillars   
   > one must pass between to reach the temple. These are the two pillars   
   > that Sampson pushed down to destroy the mighty Philistines.   
      
   You have painted with a very wide brush and broad stroke, as well as   
   incorporated the things of God in His temple on earth into one box of illicit   
   thought.   
      
   The pillars one must pass through to enter the temple, was for the priests   
   and not the general public. And from there to the Holy of Holies. Dressed in   
   the appropriate attire.   
   The pillars were called Stability and Strength. Jachin and Boas.   
      
   In no way were those pillars related to the evil pillars that Samson brought   
   down killing more than he did in his entire life   
   >   
   >   
   > > You have been lied to by the churches long enough. Accept the Bible   
   > > truth that hell is the GRAVE.Your God is not a sadist that tortures   
   > > forever His disobedient children. He really is a God of love. (1 John   
   > > 4:8)   
   >   
   > Sure, the churches have been lying about Hades. They lie and say if you   
   > don't obey them and give them your money you will be cast into Hades   
   > and burn for eternity. But you are compounding their lies with your own   
   > religious lies about soul annihilation by your Jack Kevorkian deity.   
      
   Churches in every instance of the NT was the word used for translating   
   ekklesia.   
   Contrary to your opinions, they have not been lying about Hades. Are there   
   groups of people as well as religions who lied about it, yes. There are those   
   who teach a false Gospel, knowing not the Lord Jesus Christ, of that there is   
   no doubt, and they’re also here on the Usenet.   
      
   >   
   > The truth is this. The churches are part of the kingdom of Hades where   
   > the dead live. Jesus said of the Pharisees that they worship their   
   > father, the devil. The Old Testament says that the religious crowd of   
   > Israel was in contractual bondage to Sheol. This is the metaphor of   
   > Sheol or Hades.   
      
   That there are groups of spiritually dead people, is of no doubt, and many of   
   these walking dead also attend churches for a variety of people, wolves   
   amongst the sheep. That there were at times many people of the House of   
   Israel who shunned the Almighty God is without doubt, and that has likewise   
   happened over the Centuries with those that attend Church Meetings yet their   
   hearts were not of God, nor was the Spirit of God in them. Today there is a   
   great falling away of those who shun God and develop their own cultish   
   religions. All without the knowledge or relationship of the Most High God.   
   Instead they follow the foolishness of mens theologies.   
   >   
   > Those who trust in Jesus of Nazareth escape the gates of Hades (Sheol)   
   > and enter the temple of God on the mount, high above the churches which   
   > keep men chained in the pit of religion. If you leave the temple you   
   > fall into the pit (religion). You can't climb back up. Jesus has to   
   > raise you up.   
      
   Those who trust in the Risen Christ shall live in the Kingdom of God, in this   
   present day as well as for all eternity, if they walk in the spirit, enduring   
   or remaining faithful unto the time that the Lord returns in the clouds of   
   His Church/ekklesia’s. The Body of Christ.   
      
   All whose names are not written in the Lambs book of Life, will be tossed   
   into the Lake of Fire and Brimstone for eternal torment.   
      
   --   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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