XPost: alt.religion.christian.east-orthodox, alt.politics.religion,   
   soc.rights.human   
   XPost: alt.christnet.ethics   
   From: os333@netc.eu   
      
   Steve Hayes,    
   > On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 11:31:12 +0300, "Oleg Smirnov"    
      
   >>>> Any authority is a good from God, it's established by God.   
   >>>   
   >>> Indeed, but when it is corrupt, its corruption is not from God.   
   >>   
   >> It's sinful to think one can know God's will/plan in full.   
   >>   
   >> Holy Scripture says clearly any authority is established by   
   >> God, whereas a Christian's duty is to submit to authorities   
   >> rather than "fight" against what he or she may dislike.   
   >   
   > St Peter and St John seem to disagree with you:   
   >   
   > Act 4:19-29 - But Peter and John answered and said unto them, Whether   
   > it be right in the sight of God to hearken unto you more than unto   
   > God, judge ye. For we cannot but speak the things which we have seen   
   > and heard.   
   >   
   > Act 5:28-29 -  Saying, Did not we straitly command you that ye should   
   > not teach in this name? and, behold, ye have filled Jerusalem with   
   > your doctrine, and intend to bring this man's blood upon us. Then   
   > Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God   
   > rather than men.   
      
   Here "men" is generic, while "authorities" is more specific,   
   and since an authority is a gift from God, obendience to God   
   implies obendience to what is established by God.   
      
   > And also, though St Paul said this:   
   >   
   > Rom 13:1-2 - Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For   
   > there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.   
   > Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of   
   > God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.   
   >   
   > he also said this:   
   >   
   > Eph 6:11-12 -  Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to   
   > stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh   
   > and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the   
   > rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in   
   > high places.   
      
   From Eph 6:   
      
   "Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear ..."   
      
   "... the sword of the Spirit ...", not a fight for freedom.   
      
   > The word "powers" (Greek=exousias) is perhaps better rendered into   
   > English as "authorities".   
      
   Also, fights "for freedom" and "against corruption" aren't equal.   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)