XPost: alt.religion.christian.east-orthodox, alt.politics.religion,   
   soc.rights.human   
   XPost: alt.christnet.ethics   
   From: dr.who@nunur.biz   
      
   On Mar 6, 2025, Steve Hayes wrote   
   (Message-ID:<5boksj1imumpcjtdj7c703oficashcd5ub@4ax.com>):   
      
   > On Thu, 6 Mar 2025 19:54:12 +0300, "Oleg Smirnov"   
   > wrote:   
   >   
   > > Steve Hayes,   
   > > > On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 11:31:12 +0300, "Oleg Smirnov"    
   > >   
   > > > > > > Any authority is a good from God, it's established by God.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Indeed, but when it is corrupt, its corruption is not from God.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > It's sinful to think one can know God's will/plan in full.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Holy Scripture says clearly any authority is established by   
   > > > > God, whereas a Christian's duty is to submit to authorities   
   > > > > rather than "fight" against what he or she may dislike.   
   > > >   
   > > > St Peter and St John seem to disagree with you:   
   > > >   
   > > > Act 4:19-29 - But Peter and John answered and said unto them, Whether   
   > > > it be right in the sight of God to hearken unto you more than unto   
   > > > God, judge ye. For we cannot but speak the things which we have seen   
   > > > and heard.   
   > > >   
   > > > Act 5:28-29 - Saying, Did not we straitly command you that ye should   
   > > > not teach in this name? and, behold, ye have filled Jerusalem with   
   > > > your doctrine, and intend to bring this man's blood upon us. Then   
   > > > Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God   
   > > > rather than men.   
   > >   
   > > Here "men" is generic, while "authorities" is more specific,   
   > > and since an authority is a gift from God, obendience to God   
   > > implies obendience to what is established by God.   
   >   
   > When Enver Hoxha was the ruler of Albania he gave a similar order.   
   > Some did not obey it and continued to worship God. Were they thereby   
   > wrongly disobeying what God had established?   
      
   He banned places of worship such as mosques and churches. He did not ban   
   worshipping gods.   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)