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|    zebrabible@proton.me to nospam@nightbulb.net    |
|    Re: Watchtower Society Sells Sheol and S    |
|    08 Mar 25 21:14:50    |
      [continued from previous message]              >Israelite in the camp of Moses you would probably have been beaten and       >stoned to death.       >       >The Septuagint was translated by Israelites and Jews circa 300 b.c. In       >every occurrence of the word, "sheol" the Jewish translators translated       >it as, "hades" and not once did they translate it as "grave." This Greek       >translation was the chief Old Testament used by the Jews in the       >synagogues. Only the most learned used the ancient Hebrew text, since       >most of the people of the region spoke Greek or Aramaic for several       >centuries.       >       >So for rougly 400 years, the Old Testament used by the Jews in       >Judea, Grecia, and Egypt, used the Greek concept of Hades when       >discussing their scriptures, and not once did they interpret it to       >mean, "grave." Watchtower folk etymology for "sheol" falls into the pit       >of ignorance.       >       >For 400 years none of the Jews or Israelites translated "sheol" into       >the Greek word for, "grave." That should tell you the meaning of it.       >       >This exposes the fallacy of your Watchtower doctrine of sheol. You're       >trying to peddle sheol and shinola.       >       >> Genesis 37:34-35       >>       >> "So Jacob tore his clothes, and put sackcloth on his loins and mourned       >> for his son many days. Then all his sons and all his daughters arose       >> to comfort him, but he refused to be comforted. And he said, “Surely I       >> will go down to Sheol in mourning for my son.” So his father wept for       >> him."       >>       >> For Jacob this was not a heaven or hell debate… it was merely saying       >> that the loss of his son would kill him; it would put him in his       >> grave, (not send him to hell). "       >       > "Drought and heat consume the snow waters: so doth the grave those       > which have sinned."       >       >To "go down to sheol" means to descend into the underworld. It is in       >reference to the afterlife abode of the soul. It is not a reference to       >"unconscious death."       >       >> https://hebrewwordlessons.com/2019/10/27/sheol-the-grave-gehenna-hades-hell/       >>       >> Thus sheol is the grave       >> Thus hell is the grave.       >       >Nope. Not according to the Septuagint. Sheol is hades, just as the       >ancient Jewish translators wrote.       >       >Jesus said:       >       > "And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my       > church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it."       >       >Hades has gates, bub, just as in the Greek myths. The Old Testament       >also mentions the gates of Sheol. What a coincidence!       >       > Job 38:17       > Have the gates of death [sheol] been opened unto thee? or hast thou       > seen the doors of the shadow of death?       >       > Psalms 9:13       > Have mercy upon me, O LORD; consider my trouble which I suffer of them       > that hate me, thou that liftest me up from the gates of death [sheol]:       >       > Psalms 107:18       > Their soul abhorreth all manner of meat; and they draw near unto the       > gates of death [sheol].       >       >What are the "gates of Hades" or the "gates of Sheol?"       >       >Organized religion and imperial governments are the gates of Sheol       >today. These are the gates of Hades, or the Johachin and Boaz pillars       >one must pass between to reach the temple. These are the two pillars       >that Sampson pushed down to destroy the mighty Philistines.       >       >> You have been lied to by the churches long enough. Accept the Bible       >> truth that hell is the GRAVE.Your God is not a sadist that tortures       >> forever His disobedient children. He really is a God of love. (1 John       >> 4:8)       >       >Sure, the churches have been lying about Hades. They lie and say if you       >don't obey them and give them your money you will be cast into Hades       >and burn for eternity. But you are compounding their lies with your own       >religious lies about soul annihilation by your Jack Kevorkian deity.       >       >The truth is this. The churches are part of the kingdom of Hades where       >the dead live. Jesus said of the Pharisees that they worship their       >father, the devil. The Old Testament says that the religious crowd of       >Israel was in contractual bondage to Sheol. This is the metaphor of       >Sheol or Hades.       >       >Those who trust in Jesus of Nazareth escape the gates of Hades (Sheol)       >and enter the temple of God on the mount, high above the churches which       >keep men chained in the pit of religion. If you leave the temple you       >fall into the pit (religion). You can't climb back up. Jesus has to       >raise you up.              --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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