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   zebrabible@proton.me to nospam@nightbulb.net   
   Re: Watchtower Society Sells Sheol and S   
   08 Mar 25 21:14:50   
   
   [continued from previous message]   
      
   >Israelite in the camp of Moses you would probably have been beaten and   
   >stoned to death.   
   >   
   >The Septuagint was translated by Israelites and Jews circa 300 b.c. In   
   >every occurrence of the word, "sheol" the Jewish translators translated   
   >it as, "hades" and not once did they translate it as "grave." This Greek   
   >translation was the chief Old Testament used by the Jews in the   
   >synagogues. Only the most learned used the ancient Hebrew text, since   
   >most of the people of the region spoke Greek or Aramaic for several   
   >centuries.   
   >   
   >So for rougly 400 years, the Old Testament used by the Jews in   
   >Judea, Grecia, and Egypt, used the Greek concept of Hades when   
   >discussing their scriptures, and not once did they interpret it to   
   >mean, "grave." Watchtower folk etymology for "sheol" falls into the pit   
   >of ignorance.   
   >   
   >For 400 years none of the Jews or Israelites translated "sheol" into   
   >the Greek word for, "grave." That should tell you the meaning of it.   
   >   
   >This exposes the fallacy of your Watchtower doctrine of sheol. You're   
   >trying to peddle sheol and shinola.   
   >   
   >> Genesis 37:34-35   
   >>   
   >> "So Jacob tore his clothes, and put sackcloth on his loins and mourned   
   >> for his son many days. Then all his sons and all his daughters arose   
   >> to comfort him, but he refused to be comforted. And he said, “Surely I   
   >> will go down to Sheol in mourning for my son.” So his father wept for   
   >> him."   
   >>   
   >> For Jacob this was not a heaven or hell debate… it was merely saying   
   >> that the loss of his son would kill him; it would put him in his   
   >> grave, (not send him to hell). "   
   >   
   >  "Drought and heat consume the snow waters: so doth the grave those   
   >  which have sinned."   
   >   
   >To "go down to sheol" means to descend into the underworld. It is in   
   >reference to the afterlife abode of the soul. It is not a reference to   
   >"unconscious death."   
   >   
   >> https://hebrewwordlessons.com/2019/10/27/sheol-the-grave-gehenna-hades-hell/   
   >>   
   >> Thus sheol is the grave   
   >> Thus hell is the grave.   
   >   
   >Nope. Not according to the Septuagint. Sheol is hades, just as the   
   >ancient Jewish translators wrote.   
   >   
   >Jesus said:   
   >   
   >  "And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my   
   >  church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it."   
   >   
   >Hades has gates, bub, just as in the Greek myths. The Old Testament   
   >also mentions the gates of Sheol. What a coincidence!   
   >   
   > Job 38:17   
   > Have the gates of death [sheol] been opened unto thee? or hast thou   
   > seen the doors of the shadow of death?   
   >   
   > Psalms 9:13   
   > Have mercy upon me, O LORD; consider my trouble which I suffer of them   
   > that hate me, thou that liftest me up from the gates of death [sheol]:   
   >   
   > Psalms 107:18   
   > Their soul abhorreth all manner of meat; and they draw near unto the   
   > gates of death [sheol].   
   >   
   >What are the "gates of Hades" or the "gates of Sheol?"   
   >   
   >Organized religion and imperial governments are the gates of Sheol   
   >today. These are the gates of Hades, or the Johachin and Boaz pillars   
   >one must pass between to reach the temple. These are the two pillars   
   >that Sampson pushed down to destroy the mighty Philistines.   
   >   
   >> You have been lied to by the churches long enough. Accept the Bible   
   >> truth that hell is the GRAVE.Your God is not a sadist that tortures   
   >> forever His disobedient children. He really is a God of love. (1 John   
   >> 4:8)   
   >   
   >Sure, the churches have been lying about Hades. They lie and say if you   
   >don't obey them and give them your money you will be cast into Hades   
   >and burn for eternity. But you are compounding their lies with your own   
   >religious lies about soul annihilation by your Jack Kevorkian deity.   
   >   
   >The truth is this. The churches are part of the kingdom of Hades where   
   >the dead live. Jesus said of the Pharisees that they worship their   
   >father, the devil. The Old Testament says that the religious crowd of   
   >Israel was in contractual bondage to Sheol. This is the metaphor of   
   >Sheol or Hades.   
   >   
   >Those who trust in Jesus of Nazareth escape the gates of Hades (Sheol)   
   >and enter the temple of God on the mount, high above the churches which   
   >keep men chained in the pit of religion. If you leave the temple you   
   >fall into the pit (religion). You can't climb back up. Jesus has to   
   >raise you up.   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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