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   While he delegated certain dominions to men, he did not relinquish His   
   Authority on all everything else.   
      
   Jesus taught, render unto Caesar that which is Caesars.   
      
   As to there being no exceptions to the rule, Man has no authority over things   
   spiritual other than that delegated by God. For the Born Again Believer they   
   cannot deny allegiance to God or relinquish what they have given to God, to   
   man, without turning their backs on God. There is much scripture on that   
   topic.   
      
   Originally it seemed that you were in support of priests rebelling, or   
   fighting a fleshly battle against rulers, even though the scriptures speak   
   that our weapons are not carnal. For we war not against the things carnal,   
   but spiritual. 2Cor 10:3   
      
   Here in the USA we have been warring, the believers, a spiritual battle over   
   this country and its rulers. We were mildly aware of the ‘deep state’   
   that has been growing for years, and even affected the country when Ore Trump   
   was in his first term. As yet we still do not know the full truth of that   
   matter, even though much has been brought to the light. Even more is yet to   
   come out, the full extent of it yet unknown. As it was it would have seemed   
   as if only another American Revolutionary War would root it out, but the   
   prayers of many in regards to this have resulted in the freedom of God to   
   operate here, but the battle is not over, as that deep tap root has yet to be   
   unearthed and we must remain vigilant.   
      
   Part, a full part of the freedom are spiritual. We are in the days of the   
   latter rain that Joel prophesied about, and the freedom is necessary to   
   spread the Gospel as well as the Glory of God around the world. There are   
   revivals popping up even at this time, around the world with signs, wonders,   
   healings, and many giving their lives to the Lord. Many also being   
   killed/martyred for their belief in Jesus the Messiah. God is raining a   
   standard against the influx of evil and all its attendants. In American   
   Cowboy speech, this is the last roundup before the return of the Lord in the   
   clouds for the purpose of the raising up of the ekklesia, the body of Christ   
   both dead and alive, as it is the end of the "church age”. And when that   
   happens, immediately suddenly, all hell will break out on earth and the time   
   of the Great Tribulation will occur.   
      
   This I say, because we are in a great spiritual battle and Satan is   
   intensifying his battle an trying his best to destroy Israel as his only   
   chance of destroying and causing the failure of the Word of God, He is the   
   forever loser. There is so much to say on this topic, and how his battle also   
   has the USA in his sights as he tries to destroy America from within. Yes,   
   America will be destroyed as a world power, but not while the ekklesia of God   
   is alive here.   
      
   Anyhow, we are, bottom line, in a spiritual war, and have been. Which is why   
   Paul and others relayed the word of God to us, to put on the full armor of   
   God, to recognize our source is God, the same God who feeds the sparrows, and   
   if so, how much more does he care for us who were created in His image?   
      
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   > Then read the Martyrdom of Polycarp.   
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   > Note his attitude to the Roman governor.   
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   > Romnas 13 says we should be subject to the authoerities, not that we   
   > should *obey* theior every command.   
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   > Polycarp is clearly subject to the Roman governor, and respects his   
   > authority, but he does not obey his every command.   
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   > And that is exactly in line with the attitude of Peter and John, not   
   > obeying those who told them to stop speaking of Jesus.   
      
   Peter and John, as was stated at the fore, were responding to the spiritual   
   leaders of Israel, not to the Roman Government. Surely you must be aware of   
   the reasons for the deal under which the religious government of the Jews   
   were allowed to operate as if it were under the Old Covenant? While the Jew   
   tithed of their earnings and sacrificed, they still paid taxes to Ceasar.   
      
   In regards to Romans 13 there is nothing there that speaks about limitations   
   regarding governmental rule, nor are there any inferences of it.   
      
   Rom 13:5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for   
   conscience sake.   
      
   Rom 13:6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's   
   ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.   
      
   Rom 13:7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due;   
   custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.   
      
   A believer is to walk in the spirit. With the law of God written upon their   
   heart. Not their mind. Their minds are to be renewed that we might have the   
   mind of Christ Jesus. It is a ‘new way of life’, one that few teach on or   
   about. Which is why the ekklesia has been so weak over the centuries as a   
   whole.   
      
   When we recognize ourselves as children of the Most High, regardless of our   
   age, we should as children put our hand in the hands of God as we walk life's   
   journey. Put our hands In the hands of the one who stills the waters. Putting   
   our full faith and confidence in our Heavenly Father, as a small child who   
   believes their Dad can do anything for them.   
      
   It is too bad that we are not taught that, or that our faith is weakened by   
   teachers who are carnal, immature, who themselves were taught no better. It   
   deeply saddens me to know of all the years I wasted in the wallows.   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)