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   From: oxtail@nowhere.org   
      
   Catawumpus wrote:   
      
   > oxtail :   
   >   
   > [Apannaka Sutta]   
   >   
   >> You read it wrong.   
   >   
   >      Strange then that you still haven't either showed anywhere   
   > my reading is mistaken or offered a cogent reply to my criticism of   
   > yours, which ignores the Buddha's assertion "There actually is the next   
   > world," not to mention the sharp distinction he draws between "the good   
   > destination" and the bad one, and his teaching that to state the the   
   > next world actually exists is right speech.  You've come up short and   
   > then some.   
      
   Listen to the translator, please.   
      
   [quote]   
   It is noteworthy that the arguments in A2 and B2 are not safe-bet   
   arguments, for they assume that A is wrong and B is right. Whether these   
   arguments date from the Buddha or were added at a later date, no one   
   knows.   
   [/quote]   
   http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/mn/mn.060.than.html   
      
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