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   From: oxtail@nowhere.org   
      
   Catawumpus wrote:   
      
   > oxtail :   
   >   
   > [Apannaka Sutta]   
   >   
   >> Listen to the translator, please.   
   >> [quote]   
   >> It is noteworthy that the arguments in A2 and B2 are not safe-bet   
   >> arguments, for they assume that A is wrong and B is right. [/quote]   
   >   
   >      You're making my point for me.  The "safe-bet argument" is   
   > part of the sutta, not the sutta as a whole, which also contends "There   
   > actually is the next world" and teaches that to say so is right speech.   
   >   
   >> [quote]   
   >> Whether these  arguments date from the Buddha or were added at a later   
   >> date, no one knows.   
   >> [/quote]   
   >   
   >      You don't have to believe what the Buddha says there.  You   
   > don't have to believe the sutta describes his teaching correctly.  But   
   > misrepresenting the sutta to make it match with your beliefs is   
   > dishonesty.   
      
      
   Any more than willfully disregarding   
   the clear intent of the author?   
      
   --   
   Oxtail is not doing what he thinks he is doing here.   
      
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