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   XPost: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy   
   From: niunian@ymail.com   
      
   On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 11:59:33 -0700 (PDT), zenworm    
   wrote:   
      
   >On Aug 14, 9:21?am, Jigme Dorje  wrote:   
   >> On Aug 14, 6:00?am, zenworm  wrote:   
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   >> > On Aug 13, 1:14?pm, oxtail  wrote:   
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   >> > > Jigme Dorje wrote:   
   >> > > > On Aug 13, 12:41?pm, oxtail  wrote:   
   >> > > >> Jigme Dorje wrote:   
   >> > > >> > On Aug 13, 11:59?am, oxtail  wrote:   
   >> > > >> >> Jigme Dorje wrote:   
   >>   
   >> > > >> >> > "Awakening" of course is only a word, and is usually used as one   
   >> > > >> >> > of those words people say to make an artificial goal, and to   
   >> > > >> >> > invent excuses to push it further away from them into the   
   future.   
   >> > > >> >> > In fact, it is right here and now. ?We may all experience   
   glimpses   
   >> > > >> >> > of it. It really isn't anything so special; it's quite ordinary,   
   >> > > >> >> > not melodramatic in the least.   
   >>   
   >> > > >> >> > But neither is it superficial, part of the horizontal experience   
   >> > > >> >> > of life. It is part of the vertical experience, that of depth,   
   and   
   >> > > >> >> > so it can only be experienced when one is wearied of the   
   >> > > >> >> > horizontal. When you are thoroughly tired of suffering, of the   
   >> > > >> >> > charade that life can bring you satisfaction on the level of   
   >> > > >> >> > surface, you will experience the "big bang," or its opposite,   
   the   
   >> > > >> >> > big implosion into emptiness.   
   >>   
   >> > > >> >> I have to agree with Tang   
   >> > > >> >> that you are not there yet.   
   >> > > >> >> But you do appear to have practiced   
   >> > > >> >> talking to yourself a lot.   
   >> > > >> >> Do you work with koans?   
   >>   
   >> > > >> > Your practice changes. It becomes more direct.   
   >>   
   >> > > >> Hopefully from soliloquy to public cases.   
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   >> > > > Beyond both.   
   >>   
   >> > > Good for you.   
   >> > > Is a mountain just a mountain, yet?   
   >>   
   >> > never a mountain   
   >> > always a mountain   
   >> > this Moment   
   >> > That   
   >>   
   >> > ^~   
   >>   
   >> In the countryside of China, Korea and Japan,   
   >> people live in valleys nestled in the mountains.   
   >> For them, the mountain is synonymous with nature.   
   >> I once had a calligraphy painting that read   
   >> "the wise man knows the mountain."   
   >> The power of the life force is felt   
   >> in every living thing on the mountain,   
   >> and the encroachment of wild beasts is feared.   
   >> Yet, the women comb the forest bed for mountain vegetables.   
   >> Groups ascend steep trails to the peaks   
   >> to drink soju and sake and sing in the stream beds   
   >> as children splash in the streams.   
   >> The sounds of grandmothers' songs   
   >> drift into the fresh mountain air.   
   >   
   >   
   >up on "Old Baldy"   
   >*i* climbed the mountain alone   
   >no *i* came back down   
   >   
   >^~   
      
   A retard.   
      
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