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   From: evelyn.ruut@gmail.com   
      
   "Jigme Dorje"  wrote in message   
   news:b01e21a4-9867-40d1-a9ba-52ea27f05d5c@v8g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...   
   > On Aug 14, 6:00 am, zenworm  wrote:   
   >> On Aug 13, 1:14 pm, oxtail  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> > Jigme Dorje wrote:   
   >> > > On Aug 13, 12:41 pm, oxtail  wrote:   
   >> > >> Jigme Dorje wrote:   
   >> > >> > On Aug 13, 11:59 am, oxtail  wrote:   
   >> > >> >> Jigme Dorje wrote:   
   >>   
   >> > >> >> > "Awakening" of course is only a word, and is usually used as   
   >> > >> >> > one   
   >> > >> >> > of those words people say to make an artificial goal, and to   
   >> > >> >> > invent excuses to push it further away from them into the   
   >> > >> >> > future.   
   >> > >> >> > In fact, it is right here and now.  We may all experience   
   >> > >> >> > glimpses   
   >> > >> >> > of it. It really isn't anything so special; it's quite   
   >> > >> >> > ordinary,   
   >> > >> >> > not melodramatic in the least.   
   >>   
   >> > >> >> > But neither is it superficial, part of the horizontal   
   >> > >> >> > experience   
   >> > >> >> > of life. It is part of the vertical experience, that of depth,   
   >> > >> >> > and   
   >> > >> >> > so it can only be experienced when one is wearied of the   
   >> > >> >> > horizontal. When you are thoroughly tired of suffering, of the   
   >> > >> >> > charade that life can bring you satisfaction on the level of   
   >> > >> >> > surface, you will experience the "big bang," or its opposite,   
   >> > >> >> > the   
   >> > >> >> > big implosion into emptiness.   
   >>   
   >> > >> >> I have to agree with Tang   
   >> > >> >> that you are not there yet.   
   >> > >> >> But you do appear to have practiced   
   >> > >> >> talking to yourself a lot.   
   >> > >> >> Do you work with koans?   
   >>   
   >> > >> > Your practice changes. It becomes more direct.   
   >>   
   >> > >> Hopefully from soliloquy to public cases.   
   >>   
   >> > > Beyond both.   
   >>   
   >> > Good for you.   
   >> > Is a mountain just a mountain, yet?   
   >>   
   >> never a mountain   
   >> always a mountain   
   >> this Moment   
   >> That   
   >>   
   >> ^~   
   >   
   > In the countryside of China, Korea and Japan,   
   > people live in valleys nestled in the mountains.   
   > For them, the mountain is synonymous with nature.   
   > I once had a calligraphy painting that read   
   > "the wise man knows the mountain."   
   > The power of the life force is felt   
   > in every living thing on the mountain,   
   > and the encroachment of wild beasts is feared.   
   > Yet, the women comb the forest bed for mountain vegetables.   
   > Groups ascend steep trails to the peaks   
   > to drink soju and sake and sing in the stream beds   
   > as children splash in the streams.   
   > The sounds of grandmothers' songs   
   > drift into the fresh mountain air.   
      
      
   Beautiful, Jigme.   Thank you.   
      
   --   
   Best Regards,   
   Evelyn   
      
   In the stony fastness of the mountains there is a strange market, where one   
   may barter the vortex of life for boundless bliss.  - Milarepa   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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