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   XPost: talk.religion.buddhism, alt.zen, alt.philosophy.zen   
   XPost: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy   
   From: epsteinrob@yahoo.com   
      
   zenworm wrote:   
      
   > On Aug 12, 8:43 pm, Jigme Dorje  wrote:   
   >   
   >>On Aug 12, 3:20 pm, Catawumpus  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>>halfawake :   
   >>   
   >>>>I was asserting something more than that.  I didn't say puritans were   
   >>   
   >>>     You argued "puritans in every tradition reject sensory and   
   >>>physical experience" generally "in favor of purely mental   
   >>>experience from the neck up."  But that ain't so.  A puritan is   
   >>>"a person with censorious moral beliefs, esp. about   
   >>>pleasure and sex."  Puritans don't object to cold showers, hard   
   >>>work, or other forms of physical experience in keeping with   
   >>>their morality.  Ergo you understand puritanism as poorly as do   
   >>>the other stuff you've discussed.   
   >>   
   >>>-- Catawumpus   
   >>   
   >>OK, you win. Everybody's an idiot except you.   
   >>   
   >>I first noticed this phenomenon in Korea where the person who shouts   
   >>the loudest wins the argument.   
   >>   
   >>But it happens here too, without the shouting. The means justify the   
   >>ends, and if you have to twist the other person's words, throw around   
   >>invalid arguments to confuse the issue and misrepresent the others'   
   >>positions, that's ok, just as long as you get the last word in - it's   
   >>a battle of attrition.   
   >>   
   >>Senator Joseph McCarthy won on those terms too. Sure, everybody walked   
   >>out shaking their heads about him too, but at least he got the   
   >>satisfaction of getting in the last word.   
   >>   
   >>Halfawake, give him his imaginary prize, and leave him to his misery.   
   >>No doubt the man's an overweight geek with bad teeth, a puss that only   
   >>a motherfucker could love and probably still a virgin. Have mercy and   
   >>let him have his little victory.   
      
   If he does look that way, no doubt it is because he misrepresented key   
   portions of the Lotus Sutra in a previous lifetime.   
      
   > Perhaps Catawumpus is   
   > a woman who has lost a child   
   > and suffers from the anger of grief.   
      
   I would be surprised if a woman would argue with his cold ferocity and   
   indefatigable dogmatism.   
      
   Robert   
      
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