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   From: epsteinrob@yahoo.com   
      
   Allen Barker wrote:   
      
   > On 08/12/2010 04:02 PM, Tang Huyen wrote:   
   >   
   >> On one hand, Augustine spent his last days crying   
   >> copiously. On the other, Chan masters usually gather   
   >> their disciples, sit quietly in full lotus, recite a verse   
   >> (gatha), and die in peace and serenity, as if nothing   
   >> was happening (and who knows, to them nothing is   
   >> happening). Each side determines the way it goes.   
   >   
   >   
   > It goes the same way, regardless of the social   
   > conventions which evolve around it.  We all end   
   > up six feet under a tombstone -- at least these   
   > physical bodies do.   
      
   or in a handy urn.   
      
   Robert   
      
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