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   From: evelyn.ruut@gmail.com   
      
   "oxtail"  wrote in message   
   news:i474gh$6ud$4@news.eternal-september.org...   
   > Evelyn wrote:   
   >   
   >> "oxtail"  wrote in message   
   >>> Tang Huyen wrote:   
   >>>> tri cycle wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> just seeing is ok.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> According to Norbu, just seeing and no judging is the alpha and omega   
   >>>> of Buddhism.   
   >>>   
   >>> There must be something more in what he meant, unless he was trying to   
   >>> become an insect.   
   >>>   
   >> Oxtail, we don't know much about what insects think.......   
   >   
   >   
   > I'm assuming that   
   > they are not capable of being judgmental.   
   >   
   > --   
      
   A bee must judge where he finds the best pollen, and how to store that as   
   honey for the winter.    Even a lowly cockroach seems to be able to judge   
   what it must eat to survive and to flee from someone who tries to kill it.   
   So there is definitely more sentience there, than perhaps we are ascribing   
   to it.     Not really an expert on insect dharma, but that is beside the   
   point.   I know what you were trying to say to Tang about seeing and not   
   judging being alpha and omega of buddhism.    Perhaps I am nit picking, and   
   words will simply not be adequate to describe the concept of non judgement.   
   There are times when I simply can "be" in the moment and don't judge at all.   
   But those times are not permanent, and when stressful situations arise, I   
   have to catch myself before slipping back into weighing and judging and   
   boxing and caging, qualifying and quantifying....... all the stuff we do   
   that leads to discomfort.    It does get easier to return to a peaceful   
   mental state as the years go on.   
      
   May we all have a sudden awakening.   
      
   --   
   Best Regards,   
   Evelyn   
      
   In the stony fastness of the mountains there is a strange market, where one   
   may barter the vortex of life for boundless bliss.  – Milarepa   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)