XPost: talk.religion.buddhism, alt.zen, alt.philosophy.zen   
   XPost: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy   
   From: oxtail@nowhere.org   
      
   Evelyn wrote:   
      
   > "oxtail"  wrote in message   
   > news:i474gh$6ud$4@news.eternal-september.org...   
   >> Evelyn wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> "oxtail"  wrote in message   
   >>>> Tang Huyen wrote:   
   >>>>> tri cycle wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> just seeing is ok.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> According to Norbu, just seeing and no judging is the alpha and   
   >>>>> omega of Buddhism.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> There must be something more in what he meant, unless he was trying   
   >>>> to become an insect.   
   >>>>   
   >>> Oxtail, we don't know much about what insects think.......   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> I'm assuming that   
   >> they are not capable of being judgmental.   
   >>   
   >   
   > A bee must judge where he finds the best pollen, and how to store that   
   > as honey for the winter.    Even a lowly cockroach seems to be able to   
   > judge what it must eat to survive and to flee from someone who tries to   
   > kill it. So there is definitely more sentience there, than perhaps we   
   > are ascribing to it.     Not really an expert on insect dharma, but that   
   > is beside the point.   I know what you were trying to say to Tang about   
   > seeing and not judging being alpha and omega of buddhism.    Perhaps I   
   > am nit picking, and words will simply not be adequate to describe the   
   > concept of non judgement. There are times when I simply can "be" in the   
   > moment and don't judge at all. But those times are not permanent, and   
   > when stressful situations arise, I have to catch myself before slipping   
   > back into weighing and judging and boxing and caging, qualifying and   
   > quantifying....... all the stuff we do that leads to discomfort.    It   
   > does get easier to return to a peaceful mental state as the years go on.   
   >   
   > May we all have a sudden awakening.   
      
      
   Not all thinking is judgmental.   
      
   --   
   Oxtail is not doing what he thinks he is doing here.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)