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   From: niunian@ymail.com   
      
   On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 08:03:37 -0700 (PDT), zenworm    
   wrote:   
      
   >On Aug 15, 9:11?am, "Evelyn"  wrote:   
   >> "zenworm"  wrote in message   
   >>   
   >> news:0606824d-66cf-4fa9-94f1-c9a10aa23122@a36g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...   
   >>   
   >> > On Aug 15, 5:29 am, niunian  wrote:   
   >> >> On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 20:26:19 -0700 (PDT), zenworm    
   >> >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >> >> >On Aug 14, 6:01?pm, brian mitchell  wrote:   
   >> >> >> ?zenworm wrote:   
   >> >> >> >what are you afraid of?   
   >>   
   >> >> >> The stifling crush of authority.   
   >>   
   >> >> >then you are in luck   
   >>   
   >> >> >fear dies with ego and   
   >> >> >Awareness is all inclusive   
   >>   
   >> >> >^~   
   >>   
   >> >> Fearless is ego too. It is why there are so many suicide bombers.   
   >>   
   >> > not true   
   >> > they just fear living more than they fear dieing   
   >>   
   >> > ^~   
   >>   
   >> They have been promised something more   
   >> than the present life.   
   >> Again it is the individual ego, the thought of gain.   
   >   
   >   
   >yes   
   >suffering out of separation from Moment   
   >by being caught in chasing   
   >future (next life/after life) gain.   
      
   Then why are you still trying to make ends meet? Why don't you stop   
   working and just be starved to death instead?   
      
   >   
   >Giving Niunian credit, he may be referring to   
   >an egoicly driven sense of "false bravado"   
   >which can give an appearance of fearlessness   
   >whilst acting fearfully.   
      
   It is a fact you can simply can not deny. It's not a mere appearance.   
   Those people can scare the shit out of you because they are completely   
   fearless.   
      
   >   
   >This (as you know) is not the same as   
   >realization through experiencing awakening   
   > that Awareness is eternal.  (deathless)   
      
   In an awakened state, neither fear nor fearless apply. The fact you   
   are still attached to fearless shows you are still limited by your   
   dualistic thinking. It's no awakening. You are imagining things which   
   you do not really understand.   
      
   >   
   >^~   
   >   
   >   
   >   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)