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   From: epsteinrob@yahoo.com   
      
   Catawumpus wrote:   
      
   > oxtail :   
   >   
   >   
   >>You are quite skilled in distracting yourself.   
   >   
   >   
   >      You are quite unskilled in right speech, since you keep on   
   > misrepresenting the Apannaka Sutta, apparently because the   
   > Buddha's saying "There is actually the next world" doen't match   
   > your doctrine.   
   >   
   >   
   >>In that sutta, The Buddha was arguing against the anti-Dharma positions.   
   >>He was not interested in making ontological assertions.   
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   >   
   >      In this sutta the Buddha firmly asserts "There is actually   
   > the next world," calls that assertion right speech, true   
   > dhamma, etc., and distinguishes "the good destination" from the   
   > bad one in the world-to-come.   
   >   
   > -- Catawumpus   
      
   I have to agree that this sutta seems singularly focused on encouraging   
   correct behavior based on the doctrine that those who take right action   
   will wind up in a better state after death, and that those who take   
   wrong actions will wind up in hell states or have other negative   
   consequences after death.  In that, it does not seem all that different   
   from fundamentalist Christian doctrine.  What a drag.   
      
   Robert   
      
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