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   From: niunian@ymail.com   
      
   On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 13:10:03 -0700 (PDT), Jigme Dorje   
    wrote:   
      
   >On Aug 15, 1:32?pm, niunian  wrote:   
   >> On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 08:03:37 -0700 (PDT), zenworm    
   >> wrote:   
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   >> >On Aug 15, 9:11?am, "Evelyn"  wrote:   
   >> >> "zenworm"  wrote in message   
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   >> >>news:0606824d-66cf-4fa9-94f1-c9a10aa23122@a36g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...   
   >>   
   >> >> > On Aug 15, 5:29 am, niunian  wrote:   
   >> >> >> On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 20:26:19 -0700 (PDT), zenworm    
   >> >> >> wrote:   
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   >> >> >> >On Aug 14, 6:01?pm, brian mitchell  wrote:   
   >> >> >> >> ?zenworm wrote:   
   >> >> >> >> >what are you afraid of?   
   >>   
   >> >> >> >> The stifling crush of authority.   
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   >> >> >> >then you are in luck   
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   >> >> >> >fear dies with ego and   
   >> >> >> >Awareness is all inclusive   
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   >> >> >> >^~   
   >>   
   >> >> >> Fearless is ego too. It is why there are so many suicide bombers.   
   >>   
   >> >> > not true   
   >> >> > they just fear living more than they fear dieing   
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   >> >> > ^~   
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   >> >> They have been promised something more   
   >> >> than the present life.   
   >> >> Again it is the individual ego, the thought of gain.   
   >>   
   >> >yes   
   >> >suffering out of separation from Moment   
   >> >by being caught in chasing   
   >> >future (next life/after life) gain.   
   >>   
   >> Then why are you still trying to make ends meet? Why don't you stop   
   >> working and just be starved to death instead?   
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   >>   
   >> >Giving Niunian credit, he may be referring to   
   >> >an egoicly driven sense of "false bravado"   
   >> >which can give an appearance of fearlessness   
   >> >whilst acting fearfully.   
   >>   
   >> It is a fact you can simply can not deny. It's not a mere appearance.   
   >> Those people can scare the shit out of you because they are completely   
   >> fearless.   
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   >> >This (as you know) is not the same as   
   >> >realization through experiencing awakening   
   >> > that Awareness is eternal. ?(deathless)   
   >>   
   >> In an awakened state, neither fear nor fearless apply. The fact you   
   >> are still attached to fearless shows you are still limited by your   
   >> dualistic thinking. It's no awakening. You are imagining things which   
   >> you do not really understand.   
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   >> >^~   
   >   
   >Niunian is a useful negative litmis. The truth tends to lie in the   
   >opposite direction of his assertions.   
      
   Why do you have to be intentionally wrong?   
      
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