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   XPost: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy   
   From: epsteinrob@yahoo.com   
      
   syringe nipples wrote:   
      
   > On 16/08/2010 2:43 AM, halfawake wrote:   
   >   
   >> Catawumpus wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> oxtail :   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>> You are quite skilled in distracting yourself.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> You are quite unskilled in right speech, since you keep on   
   >>> misrepresenting the Apannaka Sutta, apparently because the   
   >>> Buddha's saying "There is actually the next world" doen't match   
   >>> your doctrine.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>> In that sutta, The Buddha was arguing against the anti-Dharma   
   >>>> positions.   
   >>>> He was not interested in making ontological assertions.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> In this sutta the Buddha firmly asserts "There is actually the next   
   >>> world," calls that assertion right speech, true   
   >>> dhamma, etc., and distinguishes "the good destination" from the   
   >>> bad one in the world-to-come.   
   >>>   
   >>> -- Catawumpus   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> I have to agree that this sutta seems singularly focused on encouraging   
   >> correct behavior based on the doctrine that those who take right action   
   >> will wind up in a better state after death, and that those who take   
   >> wrong actions will wind up in hell states or have other negative   
   >> consequences after death. In that, it does not seem all that different   
   >> from fundamentalist Christian doctrine. What a drag.   
   >>   
   >> Robert   
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   >   
   > if this sutra is singularly focused on "that" at least buddhism isn't   
   > singularly focused on this sutra? christianity is more specialized?   
      
   for sure.  Buddhism has a broad spectrum of practice, all directed   
   towards awakening, in one way or another.  The suttas that are more   
   squarely focused on piety are not well aligned to my personal temperament.   
      
   Robert   
      
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