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From: epsteinrob@yahoo.com
Evelyn wrote:
>
> "halfawake" wrote in message
> news:i4afcv$cf5$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>
>> Evelyn wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Julian" wrote in message
>>> news:i48e8n$7ev$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>
>>>> On 15/08/2010 03:14, halfawake wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Julian wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 14/08/2010 13:47, possum wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Julian" wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:i45tgh$787$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 14/08/2010 11:53, possum wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Julian" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:i45nhs$kqe$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 14/08/2010 09:14, halfawake wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Julian wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/08/2010 18:21, DT wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Evelyn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "DT" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:i418a202llk@news3.newsguy.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Evelyn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Julian" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:i40qsf$hbn$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/08/2010 13:10, Jigme Dorje wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 12, 5:18 am,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Julian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/08/2010 08:18, halfawake wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Julian wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/08/2010 11:39, Catawumpus wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> halfawake:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The fake conversation is between you and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ass. Hope
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're having a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The fake conversation is the one Evelyn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> openly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> admitted to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when she denied she was offering a real one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which makes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perfect sense in light of all the fake
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accusations she's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tossed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They are not fake. They are real accusations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unsubstantiated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can't expect anything else after the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Occultists, and the so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> called
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Korean Zen" and Tibetanista teachers, have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> profoundly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twisted her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> melon,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> man.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you really want to get occult, try the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assertions of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lotus Sutra,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> largely based on supernaturalism and magical
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thinking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are keen and verbose in seeking evidence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> respect to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tibetan foetid rascalities before you'll cease
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deny such
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, proving a negative was never my strong suit, since
>>>>>>>>>>> it is
>>>>>>>>>>> impossible. One doesn't take assertions that have no
>>>>>>>>>>> evidence and find
>>>>>>>>>>> evidence to refute it. I challenge you to find evidence
>>>>>>>>>>> that there is n
>>>>>>>>>>> such thing as a unicorn. Prove it. You can't. If you
>>>>>>>>>>> assert that the
>>>>>>>>>>> Tibetan lamas have done something you have to provide
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> evidence, and
>>>>>>>>>>> it has to be real evidence or it is pure bullshit. That
>>>>>>>>>>> won't stop you
>>>>>>>>>>> from saying it is true over and over again will it?
>>>>>>>>>>> Asserting things to
>>>>>>>>>>> exist that have no evidence is a strength of yours and
>>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>>> anti-Tibetan ideologues. You find a book with
>>>>>>>>>>> unsubstantiated assertions
>>>>>>>>>>> and use it as a citation, or a picture that is
>>>>>>>>>>> supposedly
>>>>>>>>>>> of skin taken
>>>>>>>>>>> from living people with no evidence to support it and
>>>>>>>>>>> then go on about
>>>>>>>>>>> it as if it were proven. And that is the worst kind of
>>>>>>>>>>> propaganda. If
>>>>>>>>>>> you said that Romanians skinned their babies alive I'd
>>>>>>>>>>> have the same
>>>>>>>>>>> reaction. I don't care if it's about Tibetans or people
>>>>>>>>>>> from Chicago.
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not a fan of malicious propaganda.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so presumeably you must have copious evidence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the Lotus Sutra
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is "largely based on supernaturalism and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> magical
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thinking"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and not on the assiduous practice and study of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Buddhism.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please share it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> When I get a chance I may do that. Meanwhile, if you
>>>>>>>>>>> think that the
>>>>>>>>>>> whole setup of the Lotus Sutra, asserting the unending
>>>>>>>>>>> lineage of
>>>>>>>>>>> Buddhas and Bodhisattvas, most of them never heard of
>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> any other
>>>>>>>>>>> Theravadin or Mahayana record before or after, speaking
>>>>>>>>>>> of their occult,
>>>>>>>>>>> magical and supernatural doings, and how the sutra
>>>>>>>>>>> itself
>>>>>>>>>>> has myriad
>>>>>>>>>>> magical powers, shifting the emphasis from personal
>>>>>>>>>>> enlightenment
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