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XPost: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy
From: evelyn.ruut@gmail.com
"halfawake" wrote in message
news:i4c3br$huf$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> Evelyn wrote:
>
>>
>> "halfawake" wrote in message
>> news:i4afcv$cf5$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>>> Evelyn wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Julian" wrote in message
>>>> news:i48e8n$7ev$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>
>>>>> On 15/08/2010 03:14, halfawake wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Julian wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 14/08/2010 13:47, possum wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Julian" wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:i45tgh$787$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 14/08/2010 11:53, possum wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Julian" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:i45nhs$kqe$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/08/2010 09:14, halfawake wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Julian wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/08/2010 18:21, DT wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Evelyn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "DT" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:i418a202llk@news3.newsguy.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Evelyn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Julian" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:i40qsf$hbn$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/08/2010 13:10, Jigme Dorje wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 12, 5:18 am,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Julian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/08/2010 08:18, halfawake wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Julian wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/08/2010 11:39, Catawumpus wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> halfawake:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The fake conversation is between you and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ass. Hope
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're having a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The fake conversation is the one Evelyn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> openly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> admitted to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when she denied she was offering a real one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which makes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perfect sense in light of all the fake
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accusations she's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tossed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They are not fake. They are real accusations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unsubstantiated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can't expect anything else after the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Occultists, and the so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> called
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Korean Zen" and Tibetanista teachers, have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> profoundly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twisted her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> melon,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> man.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you really want to get occult, try the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assertions of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lotus Sutra,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> largely based on supernaturalism and magical
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thinking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are keen and verbose in seeking evidence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> respect to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tibetan foetid rascalities before you'll cease
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deny such
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, proving a negative was never my strong suit, since
>>>>>>>>>>>> it is
>>>>>>>>>>>> impossible. One doesn't take assertions that have no
>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence and find
>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence to refute it. I challenge you to find evidence
>>>>>>>>>>>> that there is n
>>>>>>>>>>>> such thing as a unicorn. Prove it. You can't. If you
>>>>>>>>>>>> assert that the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tibetan lamas have done something you have to provide
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence, and
>>>>>>>>>>>> it has to be real evidence or it is pure bullshit. That
>>>>>>>>>>>> won't stop you
>>>>>>>>>>>> from saying it is true over and over again will it?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Asserting things to
>>>>>>>>>>>> exist that have no evidence is a strength of yours and
>>>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>>>> anti-Tibetan ideologues. You find a book with
>>>>>>>>>>>> unsubstantiated assertions
>>>>>>>>>>>> and use it as a citation, or a picture that is
>>>>>>>>>>>> supposedly
>>>>>>>>>>>> of skin taken
>>>>>>>>>>>> from living people with no evidence to support it and
>>>>>>>>>>>> then go on about
>>>>>>>>>>>> it as if it were proven. And that is the worst kind of
>>>>>>>>>>>> propaganda. If
>>>>>>>>>>>> you said that Romanians skinned their babies alive I'd
>>>>>>>>>>>> have the same
>>>>>>>>>>>> reaction. I don't care if it's about Tibetans or people
>>>>>>>>>>>> from Chicago.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not a fan of malicious propaganda.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so presumeably you must have copious evidence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the Lotus Sutra
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is "largely based on supernaturalism and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> magical
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thinking"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and not on the assiduous practice and study of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Buddhism.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please share it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> When I get a chance I may do that. Meanwhile, if you
>>>>>>>>>>>> think that the
>>>>>>>>>>>> whole setup of the Lotus Sutra, asserting the unending
>>>>>>>>>>>> lineage of
>>>>>>>>>>>> Buddhas and Bodhisattvas, most of them never heard of
>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>> any other
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