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   From: evelyn.ruut@gmail.com   
      
   "oxtail"  wrote in message   
   news:i4bekb$9qj$1@news.eternal-september.org...   
   > halfawake wrote:   
   >   
   >> oxtail wrote:   
   >>> halfawake wrote:   
   >>>>oxtail wrote:   
   >>>>>Tang Huyen wrote:   
   >>>>>>tri cycle wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>just seeing is ok.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>According to Norbu, just seeing and no judging is the alpha and omega   
   >>>>>>of Buddhism.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>There must be something more in what he meant, unless he was trying to   
   >>>>>become an insect.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>so you're not really ready to let go of everything? I'll make a note of   
   >>>>that.   
   >>>   
   >>> Thank you for caring.   
   >>> But you might be doing it the wrong way. You could have refrained from   
   >>> announcing that you have noticed "that"   
   >>> and help me let go of everything;   
   >>> even the distinction between judging and being judgmental.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> haven't I helped you by pointing it out? what more do you need?   
   >>   
   >> In the right position of mind, all it takes is a mention, bringing the   
   >> issue to consciousness,   
   >> and the skilled disciple will quickly let go   
   >>   
   >> did you not use the occasion as an opening for right release?   
   >   
   >   
   > You failed to help me to help Tang.   
      
   I think that there is no way for us to really know if anyone has been helped   
   or not, but if our intention is good, that is something we can hope for.   
   When I come to this newsgroup I often feel that I am helped.  Perhaps Tang   
   is the same way.   In any case, we all seem to come back here.  That is the   
   best indication that there has been any benefit.   
      
   --   
   Best Regards,   
   Evelyn   
      
   In the stony fastness of the mountains there is a strange market, where one   
   may barter the vortex of life for boundless bliss.  – Milarepa   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)