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   XPost: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy   
   From: oxtail@nowhere.org   
      
   halfawake wrote:   
      
   > oxtail wrote:   
   >> halfawake wrote:   
   >>>oxtail wrote:   
   >>>>halfawake wrote:   
   >>>>>oxtail wrote:   
   >>>>>>Tang Huyen wrote:   
   >>>>>>>tri cycle wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>just seeing is ok.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>According to Norbu, just seeing and no judging is the alpha and   
   >>>>>>>omega of Buddhism.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>There must be something more in what he meant, unless he was trying   
   >>>>>>to become an insect.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>so you're not really ready to let go of everything? I'll make a note   
   >>>>>of that.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Thank you for caring.   
   >>>>But you might be doing it the wrong way. You could have refrained from   
   >>>>announcing that you have noticed "that" and help me let go of   
   >>>>everything;   
   >>>>even the distinction between judging and being judgmental.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>haven't I helped you by pointing it out? what more do you need?   
   >>>   
   >>>In the right position of mind, all it takes is a mention, bringing the   
   >>>issue to consciousness,   
   >>>and the skilled disciple will quickly let go   
   >>>   
   >>>did you not use the occasion as an opening for right release?   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> You failed to help me to help Tang.   
   >>   
   >>   
   > I thought Tang was okay at that moment, and that it was you, with your   
   > false image of the mindless insect, that needed the help.  I think   
   > you're overly attached to thought.   
      
      
   Is awakening subjective?   
      
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