XPost: talk.religion.buddhism, alt.zen, alt.philosophy.zen
XPost: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy
From: niunian@ymail.com
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 19:08:16 -0500, Keynes
wrote:
>On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 23:53:55 +0000 (UTC), oxtail wrote:
>
>>halfawake wrote:
>>
>>> oxtail wrote:
>>>> halfawake wrote:
>>>>>oxtail wrote:
>>>>>>halfawake wrote:
>>>>>>>oxtail wrote:
>>>>>>>>Tang Huyen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>tri cycle wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>just seeing is ok.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>According to Norbu, just seeing and no judging is the alpha and
>>>>>>>>>omega of Buddhism.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>There must be something more in what he meant, unless he was trying
>>>>>>>>to become an insect.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>so you're not really ready to let go of everything? I'll make a note
>>>>>>>of that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thank you for caring.
>>>>>>But you might be doing it the wrong way. You could have refrained from
>>>>>>announcing that you have noticed "that" and help me let go of
>>>>>>everything;
>>>>>>even the distinction between judging and being judgmental.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>haven't I helped you by pointing it out? what more do you need?
>>>>>
>>>>>In the right position of mind, all it takes is a mention, bringing the
>>>>>issue to consciousness,
>>>>>and the skilled disciple will quickly let go
>>>>>
>>>>>did you not use the occasion as an opening for right release?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You failed to help me to help Tang.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I thought Tang was okay at that moment, and that it was you, with your
>>> false image of the mindless insect, that needed the help. I think
>>> you're overly attached to thought.
>>
>>
>>Is awakening subjective?
>
>Is samsara subjective?
>
Stupid people always ask stupid questions. Samsara is empty. Awakening
is perfect, and perfection is never empty. Subjectivity is only about
mind vs. matter which is dualistic thinking that has nothing to do
with awakening or samsara.
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