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   From: niunian@ymail.com   
      
   On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 18:06:21 -0700 (PDT), Jigme Dorje   
    wrote:   
      
   >On Aug 16, 8:39?pm, niunian  wrote:   
   >> On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 19:08:16 -0500, Keynes    
   >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> >On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 23:53:55 +0000 (UTC), oxtail    
   wrote:   
   >>   
   >> >>halfawake wrote:   
   >>   
   >> >>> oxtail wrote:   
   >> >>>> halfawake wrote:   
   >> >>>>>oxtail wrote:   
   >> >>>>>>halfawake wrote:   
   >> >>>>>>>oxtail wrote:   
   >> >>>>>>>>Tang Huyen wrote:   
   >> >>>>>>>>>tri cycle wrote:   
   >>   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>just seeing is ok.   
   >>   
   >> >>>>>>>>>According to Norbu, just seeing and no judging is the alpha and   
   >> >>>>>>>>>omega of Buddhism.   
   >>   
   >> >>>>>>>>There must be something more in what he meant, unless he was trying   
   >> >>>>>>>>to become an insect.   
   >>   
   >> >>>>>>>so you're not really ready to let go of everything? I'll make a note   
   >> >>>>>>>of that.   
   >>   
   >> >>>>>>Thank you for caring.   
   >> >>>>>>But you might be doing it the wrong way. You could have refrained from   
   >> >>>>>>announcing that you have noticed "that" and help me let go of   
   >> >>>>>>everything;   
   >> >>>>>>even the distinction between judging and being judgmental.   
   >>   
   >> >>>>>haven't I helped you by pointing it out? what more do you need?   
   >>   
   >> >>>>>In the right position of mind, all it takes is a mention, bringing the   
   >> >>>>>issue to consciousness,   
   >> >>>>>and the skilled disciple will quickly let go   
   >>   
   >> >>>>>did you not use the occasion as an opening for right release?   
   >>   
   >> >>>> You failed to help me to help Tang.   
   >>   
   >> >>> I thought Tang was okay at that moment, and that it was you, with your   
   >> >>> false image of the mindless insect, that needed the help. ?I think   
   >> >>> you're overly attached to thought.   
   >>   
   >> >>Is awakening subjective?   
   >>   
   >> >Is samsara subjective?   
   >>   
   >> Stupid people always ask stupid questions. Samsara is empty. Awakening   
   >> is perfect, and perfection is never empty. Subjectivity is only about   
   >> mind vs. matter which is dualistic thinking that has nothing to do   
   >> with awakening or samsara.   
   >   
   >Boy, I'm glad I didn't ask it. You don't cut anybody a break do you?   
      
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