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   From: evelyn.ruut@gmail.com   
      
   "Jigme Dorje"  wrote in message   
   news:59d51da3-79be-47d7-8b97-e8fa9b441383@z28g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...   
   > On Aug 16, 8:39 pm, niunian  wrote:   
   >> On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 19:08:16 -0500, Keynes    
   >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> >On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 23:53:55 +0000 (UTC), oxtail    
   >> >wrote:   
   >>   
   >> >>halfawake wrote:   
   >>   
   >> >>> oxtail wrote:   
   >> >>>> halfawake wrote:   
   >> >>>>>oxtail wrote:   
   >> >>>>>>halfawake wrote:   
   >> >>>>>>>oxtail wrote:   
   >> >>>>>>>>Tang Huyen wrote:   
   >> >>>>>>>>>tri cycle wrote:   
   >>   
   >> >>>>>>>>>>just seeing is ok.   
   >>   
   >> >>>>>>>>>According to Norbu, just seeing and no judging is the alpha and   
   >> >>>>>>>>>omega of Buddhism.   
   >>   
   >> >>>>>>>>There must be something more in what he meant, unless he was   
   >> >>>>>>>>trying   
   >> >>>>>>>>to become an insect.   
   >>   
   >> >>>>>>>so you're not really ready to let go of everything? I'll make a   
   >> >>>>>>>note   
   >> >>>>>>>of that.   
   >>   
   >> >>>>>>Thank you for caring.   
   >> >>>>>>But you might be doing it the wrong way. You could have refrained   
   >> >>>>>>from   
   >> >>>>>>announcing that you have noticed "that" and help me let go of   
   >> >>>>>>everything;   
   >> >>>>>>even the distinction between judging and being judgmental.   
   >>   
   >> >>>>>haven't I helped you by pointing it out? what more do you need?   
   >>   
   >> >>>>>In the right position of mind, all it takes is a mention, bringing   
   >> >>>>>the   
   >> >>>>>issue to consciousness,   
   >> >>>>>and the skilled disciple will quickly let go   
   >>   
   >> >>>>>did you not use the occasion as an opening for right release?   
   >>   
   >> >>>> You failed to help me to help Tang.   
   >>   
   >> >>> I thought Tang was okay at that moment, and that it was you, with   
   >> >>> your   
   >> >>> false image of the mindless insect, that needed the help.  I think   
   >> >>> you're overly attached to thought.   
   >>   
   >> >>Is awakening subjective?   
   >>   
   >> >Is samsara subjective?   
   >>   
   >> Stupid people always ask stupid questions. Samsara is empty. Awakening   
   >> is perfect, and perfection is never empty. Subjectivity is only about   
   >> mind vs. matter which is dualistic thinking that has nothing to do   
   >> with awakening or samsara.   
   >   
   > Boy, I'm glad I didn't ask it. You don't cut anybody a break do you?   
      
   No, he doesn't.    The truth is that there are no stupid questions.   The   
   stupidity is in those who pretend (like Niunion)  to know, and are afraid to   
   ask questions for fear that they won't look-like they know.   
      
   No person who asks a question is stupid.   That persons mind is open to   
   learn.  It is only the ones who strut their stuff rudely, pretending to   
   know, who are really stupid.   
      
   --   
   Best Regards,   
   Evelyn   
      
   In the stony fastness of the mountains there is a strange market, where one   
   may barter the vortex of life for boundless bliss.  - Milarepa   
      
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