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XPost: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy
From: epsteinrob@yahoo.com
Evelyn wrote:
>
> "halfawake" wrote in message
> news:i4c3br$huf$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>
>> Evelyn wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "halfawake" wrote in message
>>> news:i4afcv$cf5$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>
>>>> Evelyn wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Julian" wrote in message
>>>>> news:i48e8n$7ev$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 15/08/2010 03:14, halfawake wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Julian wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 14/08/2010 13:47, possum wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Julian" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:i45tgh$787$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 14/08/2010 11:53, possum wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Julian" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:i45nhs$kqe$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/08/2010 09:14, halfawake wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Julian wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/08/2010 18:21, DT wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Evelyn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "DT" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:i418a202llk@news3.newsguy.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Evelyn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Julian" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:i40qsf$hbn$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/08/2010 13:10, Jigme Dorje wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 12, 5:18 am,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Julian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/08/2010 08:18, halfawake wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Julian wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/08/2010 11:39, Catawumpus wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> halfawake:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The fake conversation is between you and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ass. Hope
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're having a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The fake conversation is the one Evelyn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> openly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> admitted to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when she denied she was offering a real one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which makes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perfect sense in light of all the fake
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accusations she's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tossed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They are not fake. They are real accusations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unsubstantiated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can't expect anything else after the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Occultists, and the so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> called
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Korean Zen" and Tibetanista teachers, have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> profoundly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twisted her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> melon,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> man.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you really want to get occult, try the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assertions of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lotus Sutra,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> largely based on supernaturalism and magical
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thinking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are keen and verbose in seeking evidence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> respect to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tibetan foetid rascalities before you'll cease
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deny such
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, proving a negative was never my strong suit, since
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> impossible. One doesn't take assertions that have no
>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence and find
>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence to refute it. I challenge you to find evidence
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that there is n
>>>>>>>>>>>>> such thing as a unicorn. Prove it. You can't. If you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> assert that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tibetan lamas have done something you have to provide
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it has to be real evidence or it is pure bullshit. That
>>>>>>>>>>>>> won't stop you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> from saying it is true over and over again will it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Asserting things to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> exist that have no evidence is a strength of yours and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>>>>> anti-Tibetan ideologues. You find a book with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> unsubstantiated assertions
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and use it as a citation, or a picture that is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> supposedly
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of skin taken
>>>>>>>>>>>>> from living people with no evidence to support it and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> then go on about
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it as if it were proven. And that is the worst kind of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> propaganda. If
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you said that Romanians skinned their babies alive I'd
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have the same
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reaction. I don't care if it's about Tibetans or people
>>>>>>>>>>>>> from Chicago.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not a fan of malicious propaganda.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so presumeably you must have copious evidence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the Lotus Sutra
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is "largely based on supernaturalism and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> magical
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thinking"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and not on the assiduous practice and study of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Buddhism.
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