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   From: hollywoodlee@gmail.com   
      
   On 8/17/2010 6:25 AM, Jigme Dorje wrote:   
      
   > I was joking about Cat, of course. But there are also questions that   
   > the mind poses about formlessness that, obviously, cannot be answered   
   > by the mind that poses them.  This is why people who live in the mind   
   > are continuously frustrated and, conversely, always surefire certain   
   > about some position or other.   
      
   Are you certain about that position?  And is it really certain and   
   obvious that questions about formlessness cannot be answered by the mind   
   that poses them?   
      
   It seems to me that these claims simply draw a veil of mystery over   
   these ideas, elevating them up as some venerated concepts instead of   
   just letting them go or helping dissolve them along with all our other   
   mental fashionings.   
      
      
   >   
   > Questions like these are parodied in a sense by koans or kong ans such   
   > as "Does a dog have Buddha nature? Not (Mu)"   
      
   Perhaps that is the nature of koans - blowing up the balloon of concepts   
   bigger and bigger with the imagined up air of nondualism and mystery,   
   until it pops and we hear the faint giggle of hal as he pees on your leg.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)