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   XPost: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy   
   From: kimmerian@fastmail.fm   
      
   Catawumpus :   
      
   >>      In the Lotus Sutra the Bodhisattva Sarvasattvapriyadarsana   
   >> immolates his body to honor the Buddha, an act called "the   
   >> most sublime worship of the law" by the eight Buddhas who watch.   
   >> Probably not your understanding of the dharma but the case   
   >> here, just as "There is actually the next world" is the case in   
   >> the Apannaka Sutta.   
      
   oxtail :   
      
   > Your context appears to be willfully narrow.   
      
        I'm going "case by case," exactly as you recommend.  Maybe   
   you should take your own advice.   
      
   > Are you trying to win an argument or to save all sentient beings from   
   > suffering?   
      
        You seem to be a pious fraud who believes it's o.k. to lie   
   when saving souls, though you would probably rather say you   
   were using "expedient means," allowed by the Lotus Sutra on the   
   grounds that they're necessary to rescue living beings.   
   Notice, however, what they're being rescued from:  life in this   
   world -- described as a burning house -- as well as in the   
   next one, consistent with the rejection of birth and rebirth in   
   the Four Noble Truths.   
      
   -- Catawumpus   
      
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    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)