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   From: evelyn.ruut@gmail.com   
      
   "halfawake"  wrote in message   
   news:i4dejn$l3q$1@news.eternal-september.org...   
   > Catawumpus wrote:   
   >   
   >> oxtail :   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>>Case by case, always. Better read things in context.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>      When we talked about the Apannaka Sutta you relied on some   
   >> generalized notion of "the Buddha-dharma" rather than considering that   
   >> particular case, causing you to deny the sutta   
   >> depicts the Buddha teaching the existence of the next world --   
   >> even though he states "There is actually the next world," calls the   
   >> proposition "There is actually the next world" right speech, contends the   
   >> idea "There is actually the next world" is true dhamma, etc.   
   >>   
   >>      In the Lotus Sutra the Bodhisattva Sarvasattvapriyadarsana   
   >> immolates his body to honor the Buddha, an act called "the most sublime   
   >> worship of the law" by the eight Buddhas who watch.   
   >> Probably not your understanding of the dharma but the case here, just as   
   >> "There is actually the next world" is the case in   
   >> the Apannaka Sutta.   
   >>   
   >> -- Catawumpus   
   >   
   > Yet another objection to the style of the Lotus Sutra.  According to   
   > Buddhism as I understand it from almost everything else I've read, heard   
   > or practiced, the Dharma is not to be worshipped by any means, but is   
   > meant to be understood and practiced.  Yet another exercise in pomposity   
   > to make one sick.  Worshipping through a meaningless act of   
   > self-immolation, as if one were a human fireworks being consumed for the   
   > amusement and continued grandiosity of the Dharma Kings, is even more   
   > disgusting.   
   >   
   > I'm not saying that the Lotus doesn't have the deep teaching that many say   
   > it does - I'm still reading.  But the feudal, medievalist, triumphalist   
   > trappings and sociopathic pomposity of the sutra are really sick.   
   >   
   > Robert   
   >   
   > = = = = = = = =   
      
      
   Many people seem to say that about it.   
      
   --   
   Best Regards,   
   Evelyn   
      
   In the stony fastness of the mountains there is a strange market, where one   
   may barter the vortex of life for boundless bliss.  - Milarepa   
      
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    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)