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   oxtail to Jigme Dorje   
   Re: The supreme teaching (was Re: fear,    
   18 Aug 10 00:12:56   
   
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   XPost: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy   
   From: oxtail@nowhere.org   
      
   Jigme Dorje wrote:   
      
   > On Aug 17, 1:34 pm, oxtail  wrote:   
   >> Catawumpus wrote:   
   >> > Catawumpus :   
   >>   
   >> >>>      In the Lotus Sutra the Bodhisattva Sarvasattvapriyadarsana   
   >> >>> immolates his body to honor the Buddha, an act called "the most   
   >> >>> sublime worship of the law" by the eight Buddhas who watch.   
   >> >>> Probably not your understanding of the dharma but the case here,   
   >> >>> just as "There is actually the next world" is the case in the   
   >> >>> Apannaka Sutta.   
   >>   
   >> > oxtail :   
   >>   
   >> >> Your context appears to be willfully narrow.   
   >>   
   >> >      I'm going "case by case," exactly as you recommend.  Maybe   
   >> > you should take your own advice.   
   >>   
   >> >> Are you trying to win an argument or to save all sentient beings   
   >> >> from suffering?   
   >>   
   >> >      You seem to be a pious fraud who believes it's o.k. to lie   
   >> > when saving souls, though you would probably rather say you were   
   >> > using "expedient means," allowed by the Lotus Sutra on the grounds   
   >> > that they're necessary to rescue living beings. Notice, however, what   
   >> > they're being rescued from:  life in this world -- described as a   
   >> > burning house -- as well as in the next one, consistent with the   
   >> > rejection of birth and rebirth in the Four Noble Truths.   
   >>   
   >> Have you figured out the difference   
   >> between the conventional truth and the ultimate truth yet?   
   >>   
   >   
   > Carry the one?   
      
      
   To the next dimension?   
      
   --   
   Oxtail is not doing what he thinks he is doing here.   
      
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