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From: evelyn.ruut@gmail.com
"halfawake" wrote in message
news:i4fv9v$m57$2@news.eternal-september.org...
> Evelyn wrote:
>
>>
>> "Jigme Dorje" wrote in message
>> news:59d51da3-79be-47d7-8b97-e8fa9b441383@z28g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>> On Aug 16, 8:39 pm, niunian wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 19:08:16 -0500, Keynes
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 23:53:55 +0000 (UTC), oxtail
>>>> >wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >>halfawake wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >>> oxtail wrote:
>>>> >>>> halfawake wrote:
>>>> >>>>>oxtail wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>halfawake wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>oxtail wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>Tang Huyen wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>tri cycle wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>just seeing is ok.
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>According to Norbu, just seeing and no judging is the alpha
>>>> >>>>>>>>>and
>>>> >>>>>>>>>omega of Buddhism.
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>There must be something more in what he meant, unless he was
>>>> >>>>>>>>trying
>>>> >>>>>>>>to become an insect.
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>so you're not really ready to let go of everything? I'll make
>>>> a >>>>>>>note
>>>> >>>>>>>of that.
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>Thank you for caring.
>>>> >>>>>>But you might be doing it the wrong way. You could have
>>>> refrained >>>>>>from
>>>> >>>>>>announcing that you have noticed "that" and help me let go of
>>>> >>>>>>everything;
>>>> >>>>>>even the distinction between judging and being judgmental.
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>haven't I helped you by pointing it out? what more do you need?
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>In the right position of mind, all it takes is a mention,
>>>> bringing >>>>>the
>>>> >>>>>issue to consciousness,
>>>> >>>>>and the skilled disciple will quickly let go
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>did you not use the occasion as an opening for right release?
>>>>
>>>> >>>> You failed to help me to help Tang.
>>>>
>>>> >>> I thought Tang was okay at that moment, and that it was you, with
>>>> >>> your
>>>> >>> false image of the mindless insect, that needed the help. I think
>>>> >>> you're overly attached to thought.
>>>>
>>>> >>Is awakening subjective?
>>>>
>>>> >Is samsara subjective?
>>>>
>>>> Stupid people always ask stupid questions. Samsara is empty. Awakening
>>>> is perfect, and perfection is never empty. Subjectivity is only about
>>>> mind vs. matter which is dualistic thinking that has nothing to do
>>>> with awakening or samsara.
>>>
>>>
>>> Boy, I'm glad I didn't ask it. You don't cut anybody a break do you?
>>
>>
>> No, he doesn't. The truth is that there are no stupid questions. The
>> stupidity is in those who pretend (like Niunion) to know, and are afraid
>> to ask questions for fear that they won't look-like they know.
>>
>> No person who asks a question is stupid. That persons mind is open to
>> learn. It is only the ones who strut their stuff rudely, pretending to
>> know, who are really stupid.
>>
>
> Well it may occur to one that niunian is stupid, but he does a good job of
> getting other people riled up, and enjoys it too. It would be useful to
> ignore him completely. He's a troll, and good at it.
>
> Robert
>
> = = = = = =
Of all the things to be good at in this lifetime, I imagine the worst of
them is to be called good at being a troll! :-)
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Best Regards,
Evelyn
In the stony fastness of the mountains there is a strange market, where one
may barter the vortex of life for boundless bliss. - Milarepa
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