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From: niunian@ymail.com
On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 16:08:16 -0700 (PDT), zenworm
wrote:
>On Aug 24, 9:17?am, niunian wrote:
>> On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 05:04:56 -0700 (PDT), zenworm
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> >On Aug 24, 7:37?am, niunian wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 01:57:12 -0700 (PDT), zenworm
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >On Aug 24, 4:26?am, niunian wrote:
>> >> >> On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 00:36:47 -0700 (PDT), zenworm
>> >> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >On Aug 23, 7:03?pm, niunian wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:45:16 -0700 (PDT), zenworm
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >> >On Aug 23, 9:23?am, niunian wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 04:56:00 -0700 (PDT), zenworm
>> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >On Aug 23, 4:33?am, niunian wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 01:21:38 -0700 (PDT), zenworm
>> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >On Aug 23, 3:52?am, niunian wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 22:34:47 -0700 (PDT), zenworm
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >On Aug 22, 10:21?pm, niunian wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 18:08:08 -0700 (PDT), zenworm
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >On Aug 22, 6:58?pm, niunian wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 15:10:57 -0700 (PDT), zenworm
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >suffering teaches
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Awareness awakens
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >letting go liberates
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Inadequate.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >no expectation
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >no disappointment
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >^~
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> No fulfillment either.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >exactly.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >no lack
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >already
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >always
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >^~
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> How does it feel to spend your life in vain?
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >no how
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >already
>> >> >> >> >> >> >now
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >^~
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> How does it feel to waste every moment of your life in vain?
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >no how
>> >> >> >> >> >no waste
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >always
>> >> >> >> >> >now
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >^~
>>
>> >> >> >> >> Don't you get it? Your now is only in vain because you haven't
>> >> >> >> >> accomplished shit. Why pretending to be stupid?
>>
>> >> >> >> >no accomplishment
>> >> >> >> >no pretending
>> >> >> >> >no shit
>>
>> >> >> >> >"it" got *me*
>>
>> >> >> >> >now
>>
>> >> >> >> >^~
>>
>> >> >> >> Your now has been proven to be a miserable failure.
>>
>> >> >> >no proof
>> >> >> >no failure
>> >> >> >(no future)
>> >> >> >no misery
>>
>> >> >> >^~
>>
>> >> >> Empty denial doesn't mean anything.
>>
>> >> >emptiness does not deny anything
>>
>> >> >^~
>>
>> >> That only proves your utter failure by denying everything.
>>
>> >no proof
>> >no failure
>> >no denial
>>
>> >^~
>>
>> You only prove what I said by continue to deny everything.
>
>
>'denial' and 'no denial'
>are not the same.
>
>Stuck in denial
>fails to discern 'no denial'.
>
>Perhaps there is a language issue,
>perhaps there is obstinacy.
>examine this closely
>
>'no' in this usage means:
>'there is not any (need of/reason for)'
>
>examine the beliefs you hold in front of you
>Holding to doctrine(s) and belief(s)
>denies what does not match them.
>
>no belief
>no doctrine
>is not a denial of belief(s) or doctrine(s).
>
>This is a pointing to the rejection that
>holding to these views entails.
>Is there a fear that holding to these views
>seeks to avoid?
>
>embracing all
>needless of any
>
>This is Moment
>
>^~
The real issue appears to be pretending to be brain dead won't save
your sorry ass despite your belief to be otherwise. You are only
fooling yourself in here.
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