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   From: epsteinrob@yahoo.com   
      
   Catawumpus wrote:   
      
   > Jigme Dorje :   
   >   
   >   
   >>>>>Such an entity cannot listen to others or carry on meaningful   
   >>>>>communication with them. It can only feed its false sense of identity   
   >>>>>by creating a sense of specialness, separation and superiority in   
   >>>>>comparison to others.  For such an entity to exist, others must be   
   >>>>>"wrong" and "stupid" or otherwise inferior.  It exists in a reactive   
   >>>>>state, completely dependent on the world of form.   
   >   
   >   
   > Catawumpus :   
   >   
   >   
   >>>>     If Jigme is describing himself then he's doing pretty well.   
   >>>>His reading difficulties stem from an inability to listen   
   >>>>without hearing his own voice, he likes to think he's specially   
   >>>>awakened, and our present discussion began with his need to   
   >>>>claim I was wrong about Buddhism.  Unfortunately for him he was   
   >>>>unable to address what I said, still less show that it was   
   >>>>false, so my point stands:  teachings like the Four Noble   
   >>>>Truths offer a highly critical perspective on worldly existence   
   >>>>no matter how much of a shock that is to worldlings like   
   >>>>Jigme who believe that "Buddhism does not comment negatively on   
   >>>>life here."   
   >   
   >   
   > absentia obscuria :   
   >   
   >   
   >>>so happy that you could respond. could you maybe say something   
   >>>real for a change? just wondering.   
   >   
   >   
   > Evelyn :   
   >   
   >   
   >>He's not capable of it.   
   >   
   >   
   >      Poor little net.buddhists:  so very offended, so incapable   
   > of expressing themselves, and either unable or unwilling to   
   > recognize that what scandalizes them is ... Buddhism.  They may   
   > as well be Christians.   
   >   
   > -- Catawumpus   
      
   I guess you don't think much of Mahayana Buddhism, with its emphasis on   
   realization and liberation of all beings from delusion?   
      
   Would you say that Mahayana is not real Buddhism?   
      
   Robert   
      
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