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   XPost: talk.religion.buddhism, alt.zen, alt.philosophy.zen   
   XPost: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy   
   From: kimmerian@fastmail.fm   
      
   Catawumpus :   
      
   > >      Easy to imagine the dialogue that worm would have had with   
   > > the Buddha:   
      
   > >      "The Noble Truth of Suffering, monks, is this: Birth is   
   > >  suffering, aging is suffering, sickness is suffering, death is     
   > >  suffering, association with the unpleasant is   
   > >  suffering, dissociation from the pleasant is suffering, not to   
   > >  receive what one desires is suffering."   
      
   > >       "Tell me, Siddhartha:  are you a woman suffering from the   
   > >  death of a child?"   
      
   zenworm :   
      
   > Do you know what Buddha would answer?   
      
        The Buddha would tell you not to call him by name; then he   
   would continue, "You are certainly being rude and   
   presumptuous; nevertheless, I will respond to you."  I guess he   
   would then discuss the idea that life is suffering and the   
   need to abandon "the craving that leads to rebirth," since they   
   were the objects of your mockery.  If this was happening in   
   the scriptures, you would have a change of heart and say thanks   
   for the help.   
      
   -- Catawumpus   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)