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   From: epsteinrob@yahoo.com   
      
   glitch wrote:   
      
   > On 09/06/2010 02:12 AM, halfawake wrote:   
   >   
   >> glitch wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 09/04/2010 11:28 PM, absentia obscuria wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> "Jigme Dorje"  wrote in message   
   >>>> news:90f1cbad-458a-4201-93c2-5f36db81ae1e@s9g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...   
   >>>>   
   >>>> On Sep 4, 7:54 am, "absentia obscuria"  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> "???????"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> news:b9bbfb40-6c7f-4943-970f-73470370059a@l20g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> On Sep 4, 3:05 am, Catawumpus  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> > zenworm :   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> > > today Halfawakes' sword is very sharp leaving no room to wriggle   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> > He impaled himself?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> > -- Catawumpus   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Welcome back.   
   >>>>> Did you bring your microscope?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> ^~`````````````````````````````   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> it's attached lens to lens   
   >>>>> to his telescope. what a   
   >>>>> view!   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> It brings to mind Mister Mxyzptlk, a trickster, in the classical   
   >>>> mythological sense, who appears at the mention of his name. If he is   
   >>>> tricked into saying his name backwards, he will return to the 5th   
   >>>> dimension. Likewise, in the world of usenet, simply not acknowledging   
   >>>> or engaging his ego causes it to look elsewhere for fulfillment.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Such an entity cannot listen to others or carry on meaningful   
   >>>> communication with them. It can only feed its false sense of identity   
   >>>> by creating a sense of specialness, separation and superiority in   
   >>>> comparison to others. For such an entity to exist, others must be   
   >>>> "wrong" and "stupid" or otherwise inferior. It exists in a reactive   
   >>>> state, completely dependent on the world of form.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> For this god is a jealous god that can bridge no other gods before it;   
   >>>> that is how precarious its illusory existence is. What it requires to   
   >>>> survive is for the possessed person to be lost in thought, and to be   
   >>>> thereby rendered incapable of severing its complete identification   
   >>>> with it and thereby dwell in the stillness that is its very source.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> But it is a paper tiger because, while dysfunctional. it is illusory.   
   >>>> A simple shift in perspective from subject-object conscious voice in   
   >>>> the head to the observer of this trickster is sufficient to send it   
   >>>> back into the 5th dimension (which, fittingly enough, is an abstract   
   >>>> thought construct). You can't fight fire with gasoline. You can only   
   >>>> starve it by no longer feeding it with fuel.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> ```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````   
   >>>>   
   >>>> ""poison all the water in the wishing well."   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> tom waits   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> "you built me up in your wishing hell"   
   >>> marilyn manson, antichrist superstar   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> still enjoying the dark side? what a waste - it's limiting and causes   
   >> more suffering. the manson types make believe they enjoy suffering and   
   >> relish it, but it's just an attempt to avoid it because they've suffered   
   >> so much in the past, and it is convoluted and futile. You're   
   >> intelligent, get off that bus. To head the other way you have to face   
   >> the pain and process it out. Read the Autobiography of Milarepa.   
   >>   
   >> Robert   
   >>   
   >> = = = = = = = = =   
   >   
   >   
   > i haven't listened to it in a long time. and marilyn manson   
   > is a genius, silly. it's not really about the dark side it's   
   > about him making some of the best music i've ever heard and   
   > ironically enough it was on his album of irony and sarcasm,   
   > his lightest appearing, alien glam phase, that i liked most..   
   > you know, ziggy stardust. but he called himself "Omega". i'm   
   > extremely disappointed by some other aspects of him, only...   
   > because he's so brilliant in others. but, he IS an american.   
   >   
   > but i see him in the context of what else is out there. there   
   > have been some good music, some characters, no one like him...   
   > ok, ziggy stardust, alice cooper, iggy pop, mick jagger, but   
   > he is some kind of ultimate version of all of them, and what i   
   > really mean is in the modern day anyway, should i buy gaga??   
   >   
   > actually i might!  i haven't heard a manson album in ages. it   
   > might be time, but i am a little bit sick of the stuff, i just   
   > am never going to forget that he is a genius and he was my   
   > rock star idol, or the closest thing to it, as i was growing up.   
      
   I have no problem with that.  I just sense that you are hiding out in   
   the dark sometimes, and I worry about you!    :(   
      
   Robert   
      
   = = = = = =   
      
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