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   From: kimmerian@fastmail.fm   
      
   halfawake :   
      
   >>>What do you think about the Buddha's path to liberation from delusion?   
      
   Catawumpus :   
      
   >> I think it makes a mockery of all the talk about mountains   
   >> remaining mountains by claiming the mountains never were   
   >> really mountains, the cities never were really cities, so forth   
   >> and so on. "They are seen to be like the city of the   
   >> Gandharvas, a dream, and Maya," or like a mirage. Quoting from   
   >> the Lankavatara Sutra.   
      
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   > Thanks for answering, although I think you confused two topics I brought   
   > up - the Buddha's path to liberation from delusion exists in Theravada   
   > as well as Mahayana; and another interrelated question as to what you   
      
    The confusion is yours. I'm not playing "Theravada versus   
   Mahayana," I'm responding to your question about the   
   "liberation from delusion" theme. You asked. I answered. You   
   fell down a well.   
      
   > As for your understanding of Mahayana, it's a superficial view. The   
   > idea that mountains "remain mountains" is a/ not quite accurate, and   
      
    The inaccuracy is yours. I didn't either explain Mahayana   
   to you or claim mountains remain mountains there. I noted   
   that talk about mountains remaining mountains becomes laughable   
   if they're merely a dream.   
      
   > not necessarily representative of Mahayana as a whole, but of zen in   
      
    More of your idiocy. I didn't say a thing about "Mahayana   
   as a whole." You can't read.   
      
   > particular. Don't have time now, but could discuss...   
      
    You couldn't possibly discuss because you don't even begin   
   to comprehend.   
      
   -- Catawumpus   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   
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