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   XPost: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy   
   From: kimmerian@fastmail.fm   
      
   halfawake :   
      
   [attachment and aversion to life]   
      
   > We have a slight disagreement on the equivalence of those qualities.   
      
        What a little weasel you are.  You wrongly stated that the   
   Middle Way is positioned "between attachment to life and   
   aversion to life."  The Dhammacakkappavattana Sutta is plain in   
   putting it between two practices -- devotion to sensual   
   pleasure and devotion to self-affliction -- while making it one   
   of the Four Noble Truths, which are undeniably averse to   
   worldly existence, since they begin by insisting that life here   
   is suffering, they find the source of the problem in the   
   craving that leads to rebirth, and they see the solution in the   
   end of that craving.  The Middle Way is the means they   
   describe for reaching that end:  i.e., a path leading away from   
   life in the world.   
      
   [whittling]   
      
   > That's your own unfounded aspersion, and you plainly don't know what   
   > you're talking about when you make up such arbitrary bullshit,   
   > mis-applying a statement from one thread to a warped version of another.   
      
        I've applied it perfectly.  What you do with your practice   
   is of course your concern, but when you said you were   
   whittling it down you gave a good way of describing what you've   
   done here, namely shaving off aspects of Buddhism that you   
   have difficulty reconciling with your life-clinging perspective.   
      
   -- Catawumpus   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)