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XPost: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy
From: firehose@everywhere.com
Jigme Dorje wrote:
> On Sep 13, 1:38 pm, firehose wrote:
>> Jigme Dorje wrote:
>> > On Sep 11, 10:22 pm, halfawake wrote:
>> >> Catawumpus wrote:
>> >> > halfawake :
>>
>> >> >>I made some specific points which you refuse to acknowledge or
>> >> >>deal
>>
>> >> > Oh, look: you're dodging again. You specifically claimed
>> >> > "The enlightened have gone beyond suffering." But it so happens
>> >> > that the Sakalika Sutta implies the opposite by stating the Buddha
>> >> > _endured_ the pain he experienced when he was harmed by a sharp
>> >> > piece of rock instead of claiming he was able to avoid or
>> >> > transcend his disagreeable feelings, and by praising him for
>> >> > enduring so well, which makes sense only if he suffered from the
>> >> > pain.
>>
>> >> > Again, I don't want to lean too heavily on one word in the
>> >> > English, but I've found a second translation that says the same
>> >> > thing. U Tin U's rendering states the Buddha "endured the pain,"
>> >> > same as in Thanissaro Bhikkhu's version, which describes him
>> >> > enduring his painful feelings -- not transcending or escaping
>> >> > them.
>>
>> >> > -- Catawumpus
>>
>> >> You're really a curious character. Why do you say the same things
>> >> over and over again, and refuse to incorporate new information? Are
>> >> you a bot?
>>
>> >> Oh my God, I think you're a freakin' program.
>>
>> >> Robert
>>
>> >> = = = = = =
>>
>> > Life ia full of gradual realizations.
>>
>> Bridges to nowhere?
>>
>> --
>> Firehose should be filtered out as well as those who talk to him
>> regularly
>
> Close; bridges to here.
From nowhere?
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Firehose should be filtered out as well as those who talk to him regularly
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