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XPost: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy
From: niunian@ymail.com
On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 11:32:46 -0700 (PDT), Jigme Dorje
wrote:
>On Sep 13, 1:38?pm, firehose wrote:
>> Jigme Dorje wrote:
>> > On Sep 11, 10:22?pm, halfawake wrote:
>> >> Catawumpus wrote:
>> >> > halfawake :
>>
>> >> >>I made some specific points which you refuse to acknowledge or deal
>>
>> >> > ? ? ?Oh, look: ?you're dodging again. ?You specifically claimed
>> >> > "The enlightened have gone beyond suffering." ?But it so happens that
>> >> > the Sakalika Sutta implies the opposite by stating the Buddha
>> >> > _endured_ the pain he experienced when he was harmed by a sharp piece
>> >> > of rock instead of claiming he was able to avoid or transcend his
>> >> > disagreeable feelings, and by praising him for enduring so well,
>> >> > which makes sense only if he suffered from the pain.
>>
>> >> > ? ? ?Again, I don't want to lean too heavily on one word in the
>> >> > English, but I've found a second translation that says the same
>> >> > thing. ?U Tin U's rendering states the Buddha "endured the pain,"
>> >> > same as in Thanissaro Bhikkhu's version, which describes him enduring
>> >> > his painful feelings -- not transcending or escaping them.
>>
>> >> > -- Catawumpus
>>
>> >> You're really a curious character. ?Why do you say the same things over
>> >> and over again, and refuse to incorporate new information? ?Are you a
>> >> bot?
>>
>> >> Oh my God, I think you're a freakin' program.
>>
>> >> Robert
>>
>> >> = = = = = =
>>
>> > Life ia full of gradual realizations.
>>
>> Bridges to nowhere?
>>
>> --
>> Firehose should be filtered out as well as those who talk to him regularly
>
>Close; bridges to here.
Which never is and never will be.
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