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   From: daletx@gnusguy.com   
      
   Evelyn wrote:   
   >   
   > "Jigme Dorje"  wrote in message   
   > news:bcc85a06-803b-4f7b-9afa-be5a94d8bc98@k30g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...   
   >> On Sep 14, 12:35 pm, Hollywood Lee  wrote:   
   >>> On Sep 13, 10:22 pm, halfawake  wrote:   
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   >>> > Catawumpus wrote:   
   >>> > > halfawake :   
   >>>   
   >>> > >>He picks up new info in an odd way.  All of his info is contained in   
   >>>   
   >>> > >      I guess Rob has to tell himself something.  His "new" info   
   >>> > > is old news, like the two arrows, and it doesn't remove the   
   >>> > > items disputing him, for example the Buddha's implied suffering   
   >>> > > in the Sakalika Sutta, the practice of religious suicide in   
   >>> > > Buddhist scripture and history, and the critical perspective on   
   >>> > > worldly existence in the Four Noble Truths and related   
   >>> > > teachings.  He can try to ignore them, but that won't make them   
   >>> > > go away.   
   >>>   
   >>> > > -- Catawumpus   
   >>>   
   >>> > I haven't ignored them.  I've acknowledged all of them, everything you   
   >>> > said, and included them in my posts after that, but you just won't   
   >>> > accept it.   
   >>>   
   >>> You should probably take your own assessment seriously, and just let   
   >>> go of the fruitless discussion.  Cat has done an admirable job of   
   >>> getting people to react to his studied ignorance of your explanations   
   >>> - his posts on suffering are splendid examples of intentional   
   >>> misunderstanding as a tactical tool in debate.  Why go further?- Hide   
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   >>   
   >> Yes, and the games don't stop there only. As long as there is any kind   
   >> of clinging to positions, this medium will continue to be rife with   
   >> the barren hashing and rehashing of intellectual ground and the   
   >> attendent stalemates, frustrations and ego strengthening that result   
   >> from it. A little banter is fun but ultimately self defeating.   
   >>   
   >> But I've been glad to meet some sincere practitioners here and some   
   >> great characters.  One wrote me that he seldom posts because he is not   
   >> interested in arguing, and has nothing to convince others of anyway.   
   >> Since that's where I stand also, I join him in returning to silence. I   
   >> had a single statement to make and, having made it, return to   
   >> practice.   
   >>   
   >> My statement is: practice works, and awareness finds you when you give   
   >> up looking and are not in contention with what is.   
   >>   
   >> Relax and take heart!   
   >>   
   >> Peace out.   
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   >   
   > Dear Jigme,   
   >   
   > I can understand what you say and relate to your comments.   
   > I drift in and out of this group also.   
      
   Heck, I just seem to drift in and out, period....   
      
   DT   
      
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