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   XPost: talk.religion.buddhism, alt.zen, alt.philosophy.zen   
   XPost: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy   
   From: kimmerian@fastmail.fm   
      
   Hollywood Lee :   
      
   > > You should probably take your own assessment seriously, and just let   
   > > go of the fruitless discussion.  Cat has done an admirable job of   
   > > getting people to react to his studied ignorance of your explanations   
   > > - his posts on suffering are splendid examples of intentional   
   > > misunderstanding as a tactical tool in debate.  Why go further?   
      
        Hollywood is doing a bad job of lying.  (Better than doing   
   a good one, I guess.)  I quoted Mr. Nobody's so-called   
   "explanations," which didn't much resemble the things they were   
   supposed to explain.  In other words, he made it a point to   
   misunderstand himself, as I showed by quoting him and providing   
   message-IDs.   
      
        That's the thing about 'tactical misunderstanding' -- it's   
   usually easy to expose.  I've done the same for Rob's   
   dodgerations and for Jigme's, too.  But Hollywood isn't backing   
   up his claims with even a shred of evidence.  All he's   
   offering is his say-so, not one thing to support what he's said.   
   He's angry enough to go on the attack, foolish enough to   
   embarrass himself by making empty accusations.  The usual thing   
   around here.   
      
   Jigme Dorje :   
      
   > I've been glad to meet some sincere practitioners here and some   
   > great characters.  One wrote me that he seldom posts because he is not   
   > interested in arguing, and has nothing to convince others of anyway.   
   > Since that's where I stand also, I join him in returning to silence.   
      
        Trying to remember how many minutes Jigme's last announced   
   silence lasted.   
      
   -- Catawumpus   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)