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   From: kimmerian@fastmail.fm   
      
   halfawake :   
      
   > >> I haven't ignored them.  I've acknowledged all of them, everything you   
      
        Forget so soon?  You've tried to deny or diminish anything   
   in Buddhism which doesn't fit in into your confessedly   
   life-clinging attitude.  Most recently you re-routed the Middle   
   Way to make it into a compromise between attachment and   
   aversion to life rather than a path leading away from the world.   
   You also offered supposedly new information that was merely   
   old news you liked more than the world-rejecting ideas you were   
   trying to avoid.   
      
   Hollywood Lee :   
      
   > > You should probably take your own assessment seriously, and just let   
      
        You all take your "assessments" seriously.  That's how you   
   know Jesus wrote the Gospels, Buddhism is a consistently   
   life-affirming religion, _Job_ is about the Almighty's kindness   
   and generosity, the Buddha never taught about rebirth, the   
   tower of Babel pointed downward, and Yahweh is Polonius dressed   
   up for Halloween.   
      
   > > go of the fruitless discussion.  Cat has done an admirable job of   
   > > getting people to react to his studied ignorance of your explanations   
   > > - his posts on suffering are splendid examples of intentional   
   > > misunderstanding as a tactical tool in debate.  Why go further?   
      
        Hollywood is doing a bad job of lying.  (Better than doing   
   a good one, I guess.)  I answered Mr. Nobody's so-called   
   "explanations," which didn't much resemble the things they were   
   supposed to explain.  In other words, he made it a point to   
   misunderstand himself, as I showed by quoting him and providing   
   message-IDs.   
      
        That's the thing about 'tactical misunderstanding' -- it's   
   usually easy to expose.  I've done the same for Rob's   
   dodgerations and for Jigme's, too.  But Hollywood isn't backing   
   up his claims with even a shred of evidence.  All he's   
   offering is his say-so, not one thing to support what he's said.   
   He's angry enough to go on the attack, foolish enough to   
   embarrass himself by making empty accusations.  The usual thing.   
      
   1/2:   
      
   > For the most part I've stopped talking to him.  I thought it was worth   
      
        Rob is on his second reply and counting since his supposed   
   good-bye, and he makes me a topic of conversation even in   
   posts like the one here.  Anyway, he thought Buddhism was worth   
   shaving down to a size that would fit into his hot-tub.   
   Unfortunately he couldn't be honest about what he was trying to   
   do.   
      
   > it to point out an outright lie, but other than this purpose I am   
      
        All the lies, half-truths, and distortions have been Rob's.   
   He relies on them to make Buddhism more acceptable to his   
   householder's mentality -- probably why he's so unhappy to have   
   them disturbed.   
      
   -- Catawumpus   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)