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   From: niunian@ymail.com   
      
   On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 12:31:46 -0700 (PDT), RaaN    
   wrote:   
      
   >On Sep 14, 7:55?am, Catawumpus  wrote:   
   >> RaaN :   
   >>   
   >> > I'm with you.   
   >>   
   >> ? ? ?You're telling me the Eightfold Path leads nowhere, but in   
   >> the Four Noble Truths it leads away from the world: ?the   
   >> Buddha describes life as suffering, teaches to end "the craving   
   >> that leads to rebirth," and provides the Way as a means to   
   >> that end. ?So you'll understand why I don't consider you a very   
   >> reliable guide.   
   >>   
   >> -- Catawumpus   
   >   
   >The path is like the raft that is not to be carried about after   
   >arriving.   
   >The other shore is not somewhere else at some other time.   
   >The ignorant state and the enlightened state are not two.   
   >The eightfold path is a means to arrive where you already are.   
   >Now here. Nowhere.   
      
   You are fool.   
      
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