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   From: epsteinrob@yahoo.com   
      
   Nobody in Particular wrote:   
      
   > halfawake wrote:   
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   >   
   >>Awaken21 wrote:   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>>On Sep 15, 10:36 am, Hollywood Lee  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>>Sure, and irrespective of the silly content and poor logic quality of   
   >>>>his posts, he is able to demonstrate that all the years of meditation   
   >>>>and Buddhist practice are of little value,   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>you know what the emotional conditions of  the person's in question   
   >>>were before they started meditating?   
   >>>   
   >>>if you don't know mental emotional conditions of the person to start   
   >>>with I don't believe it's possible to accurately measure efficacy over   
   >>>time or value of the practice to that person.   
   >>   
   >>I agree with that!  But I think the reactivity and attachment in these   
   >>arguments at the very least shows how hard it is to reach detachment and   
   >>maintain equanimity.  Even if half the people around here started out as   
   >>basket cases, or just started practicing yesterday, it is still pretty   
   >>widespread to get self at stake and start arguing like our lives depend   
   >>on it.  Maybe not true for everyone, and to me it doesn't mean practice   
   >>is not effective - just that I think for most of us, it seems to be a   
   >>long, slow path.   
   >   
   >   
   > I shudder to think what Cat was like before he "improved".   
   > Probably a member of Westboro Baptist.   
   >   
      
   I think that Cat has disavowed any active Buddhist practice, but not   
   sure.  He seems to read well enough to come up with an entrenched view   
   of a number of sutras.   
      
   Robert   
      
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