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   XPost: alt.zen, alt.religion.buddhism.theravada, alt.philosophy.zen   
   XPost: alt.religion.buddhism.nichiren   
   From: epsteinrob@yahoo.com   
      
   Disbasing Zen Stories wrote:   
      
   > On Dec 26, 1:41 pm, halfawake  wrote:   
   >   
   >>Disbarking Zen Stories wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>The fact that you continually re-title the postings of others   
   >>>undermines your objective credibility.   
   >>   
   >>Nobody cares about your stupid thread titles.  Get a life.   
   >   
   >   
   > Actually, your statement is tautologically false [false in all cases].   
   > And objectively so.   
   >   
   > Anyone who holds ideas (a point of view) and bothers to express them   
   > publically, objectively cares those views, and would neither hold, nor   
   > express them.   
   >   
   > Anyone else, who disagrees and bothers to express that disagreement,   
   > objectively cares enough to refute those views.   
   >   
   > Anyone who cares so much about what you say to try to suppress those   
   > views, such as Nichiren Shu follower Juanho/Jon Petry re-titling my   
   > posts about Nichiren Shu complicity in holocaust actions in China (and   
   > elsewhere), objectively cares enough to try to wipe those views out by   
   > publicly stomping them out, and restricting free speech.   
   >   
   > Restricting the free speech of others is a radical act. Supposedly,   
   > y'all in alt-zen treasure free speech. But down through history that   
   > usually means allowing speech that is not too far out of alignment   
   > with one.s own treasured views.   
      
   Not the point.  If you continue to re-post the same tomes that represent   
   your particular ideological issue over and over again over many years to   
   groups in which they are not relevant, it is not a matter of free speech   
   but of spamming - a nuisance.  You post 5, 10, 15 posts in a row with   
   tons of info that has been posted hundreds of time before.  You don't   
   interact or discuss anything of relevance to the groups in question,   
   just keep spamming them year after year.  If you restrict your posts to   
   the Nicherin groups, at least they will be on-topic, though repeated   
   tomes that are not interactive does go against the spirit of usenet.   
      
   Creating a false free-speech issue out of your continued harassment of   
   multiple groups is a good straw man for you to knock over, and ignore   
   your own bad behavior.  These groups were created for discussion, not   
   rampant proslytezing, and your pre-fab posts are not winning you any   
   fans or converts, just satisfying your ideological imperative to no   
   purpose, and to the annoyance of others.   
      
   No one has tried to deny your right to free speech, but if you piss in   
   someone's pool, that is not an exercise of free speech in any case -   
   it's antisocial behavior.   
      
   Robert   
      
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