XPost: alt.philosophy.zen, alt.zen, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy   
   From: usagi@tsukino.ca   
      
   On 01/27/2012 06:31 PM, Allen Barker wrote:   
   > On 01/27/2012 02:10 AM, i2i wrote:   
   >>   
   >> "Tsukino Usagi"  wrote in message   
   >> news:jft07o$8rv$1@dont-email.me...   
   >>> On 01/27/2012 10:04 AM, Sevenhundred Elves wrote:   
   >>>> Tsukino Usagi wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On 01/10/2012 01:15 AM, i2i wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> "pi" wrote in message   
   >>>>>> news:wZKdndLavP8Ok5bSnZ2dnUVZ_sednZ2d@giganews.com...   
   >>>>>>> i2i wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> "pi" wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>> news:pNmdnSdN-KBmT5fSnZ2dnUVZ_r-dnZ2d@giganews.com...   
   >>>>>>>>> i2i wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> "pi" wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>>> news:XpGdncJGwP4l3pfSnZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d@giganews.com...   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Is enlightenment most of all a state of being free?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> pi   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> what else were you looking for ?   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> The Truth.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> but the truth about what exactly ?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> what exactly do you mean?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> pi   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> what exact truth would   
   >>>>>> satisfy your search ?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> could you recognize what you   
   >>>>>> deem to be truth from the standpoint   
   >>>>>> of the slippery human dilemma ?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I am a fully enlightened zen master. I can prove it. Go ahead, ask me   
   >>>>> something only a fully enlightened zen master would know.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> How do you become a fully enlightened Zen master?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> S.   
   >>>   
   >>> Asking questions is a good start.   
   >>> There's a lot of little things,   
   >>> So attention to detail is also required...   
   >>> You can train that by learning to read Chiense or Japanese -- just a   
   >>> suggestion there, not a   
   >>> requirement. Although there are many cultural cues you won't   
   >>> appreciate (as someone who doesn't   
   >>> know the language) until you try.   
   >>> Ultimately the best way to become a fully enlightened Zen master is   
   >>> to already be one. But that   
   >>> would require you to act like one -- but, to act like one before they   
   >>> became a fully enlightened   
   >>> Zen master. You're trying to emulate their success, remember? That is   
   >>> the goal here, right?   
   >>> Practice makes perfect.   
   >>>   
   >>> There's also a handful of secret techniques I will teach you if you   
   >>> pay me. I won't discuss those   
   >>> here. But they can be had for free if you dedicate your life to it,   
   >>> maybe, drop out of school like   
   >>> I did or forget about normal work. Hmm. Maybe that is, in a way, one   
   >>> of the secrets. In the   
   >>> immortal words of Japan's famous swordsmaster, "An art without Gokui   
   >>> is not worth studying." Now,   
   >>> be a good little american and wake the fuck up about all this, and   
   >>> you will be WELL on your way.   
   >>>   
   >>> Trust me.   
   >>   
   >> nobody's buying it and if you could   
   >> see how ridiculous you look trying   
   >> to pull it off you'd run somewhere   
   >> and puke. hth.   
   >   
   > Maybe try to see it as comic relief. ;-)   
      
   The second you allow yourself to see me as comic releif and not remain   
   open to the possibility (however small) that I am right, is the moment   
   you fail as a spiritual human being. Die like that, and you might not   
   ever even get to be a human again. Watch out, allen...   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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