XPost: alt.philosophy.zen, alt.zen, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy   
   From: allendotelldotbarker@gmail.com   
      
   On 01/27/2012 11:10 AM, Tsukino Usagi wrote:   
   > On 01/27/2012 06:31 PM, Allen Barker wrote:   
   >> On 01/27/2012 02:10 AM, i2i wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>> "Tsukino Usagi"  wrote in message   
   >>> news:jft07o$8rv$1@dont-email.me...   
   >>>> On 01/27/2012 10:04 AM, Sevenhundred Elves wrote:   
   >>>>> Tsukino Usagi wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On 01/10/2012 01:15 AM, i2i wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> "pi" wrote in message   
   >>>>>>> news:wZKdndLavP8Ok5bSnZ2dnUVZ_sednZ2d@giganews.com...   
   >>>>>>>> i2i wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> "pi" wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>> news:pNmdnSdN-KBmT5fSnZ2dnUVZ_r-dnZ2d@giganews.com...   
   >>>>>>>>>> i2i wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> "pi" wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>>>> news:XpGdncJGwP4l3pfSnZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d@giganews.com...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Is enlightenment most of all a state of being free?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> pi   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> what else were you looking for ?   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> The Truth.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> but the truth about what exactly ?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> what exactly do you mean?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> pi   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> what exact truth would   
   >>>>>>> satisfy your search ?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> could you recognize what you   
   >>>>>>> deem to be truth from the standpoint   
   >>>>>>> of the slippery human dilemma ?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> I am a fully enlightened zen master. I can prove it. Go ahead, ask me   
   >>>>>> something only a fully enlightened zen master would know.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> How do you become a fully enlightened Zen master?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> S.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Asking questions is a good start.   
   >>>> There's a lot of little things,   
   >>>> So attention to detail is also required...   
   >>>> You can train that by learning to read Chiense or Japanese -- just a   
   >>>> suggestion there, not a   
   >>>> requirement. Although there are many cultural cues you won't   
   >>>> appreciate (as someone who doesn't   
   >>>> know the language) until you try.   
   >>>> Ultimately the best way to become a fully enlightened Zen master is   
   >>>> to already be one. But that   
   >>>> would require you to act like one -- but, to act like one before they   
   >>>> became a fully enlightened   
   >>>> Zen master. You're trying to emulate their success, remember? That is   
   >>>> the goal here, right?   
   >>>> Practice makes perfect.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> There's also a handful of secret techniques I will teach you if you   
   >>>> pay me. I won't discuss those   
   >>>> here. But they can be had for free if you dedicate your life to it,   
   >>>> maybe, drop out of school like   
   >>>> I did or forget about normal work. Hmm. Maybe that is, in a way, one   
   >>>> of the secrets. In the   
   >>>> immortal words of Japan's famous swordsmaster, "An art without Gokui   
   >>>> is not worth studying." Now,   
   >>>> be a good little american and wake the fuck up about all this, and   
   >>>> you will be WELL on your way.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Trust me.   
   >>>   
   >>> nobody's buying it and if you could   
   >>> see how ridiculous you look trying   
   >>> to pull it off you'd run somewhere   
   >>> and puke. hth.   
   >>   
   >> Maybe try to see it as comic relief. ;-)   
   >   
   > The second you allow yourself to see me as comic releif and not remain open   
   to the possibility   
   > (however small) that I am right, is the moment you fail as a spiritual human   
   being. Die like that,   
   > and you might not ever even get to be a human again. Watch out, allen...   
      
   Ha!  That's a good one!  Right/wrong, succeed/fail, and   
   reincarnation threat, all rolled into one!   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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