XPost: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, talk.religion.buddhism, alt.zen   
   From: zen102422@zen.co.uk   
      
   "Silas Dollar"    
   wrote in message   
   news:q548q7dk593ufa11euhqis0t45qdcv1dmj@4ax.com...   
   > On Fri, 4 May 2012 17:29:16 +0100,   
   > "possum"    
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >>   
   >>"Silas Dollar"    
   >>wrote in message   
   >>news:neq7q75sosrds0d2dbn8fc8ioj2506gtc5@4ax.com...   
   >>> On Fri, 04 May 2012 05:12:28 -0600,   
   >>> noname   
   >>>  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>On 05/03/2012 01:14 PM, Silas Dollar   
   >>>>wrote:   
   >>>>> I'm posting this as a response to my   
   >>>>> own   
   >>>>> previous post on account of   
   >>>>> the  fact that I crossposted it wrong.   
   >>>>> I   
   >>>>> was going to tag   
   >>>>> talk.religion.buddhism on to the   
   >>>>> newsgroup field thing, but I left out   
   >>>>> the 'h' that goes in 'buddhism.' So   
   >>>>> the   
   >>>>> post didn't show up in that   
   >>>>> group.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I guess it just goes to show that   
   >>>>> there's still room for improvement   
   >>>>> even when you're enlightened like me.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>What it goes to show is that whether   
   >>>>you're "enlightened" (fuckever that   
   >>>>means) or not, you still don't have an   
   >>>>understanding of the way the   
   >>>>world works, and you can't take its hint   
   >>>>to STFU instead of forcing the   
   >>>>issue.  Having forced the issue, you   
   >>>>must   
   >>>>now contend with its   
   >>>>repercussions, whereas had you taken the   
   >>>>hint you'd be done with   
   >>>>dropping shoes instead of wondering when   
   >>>>they'll get done falling.   
   >>>   
   >>> Here's the thing, y'all... If the world   
   >>> was a giving me a hint, it was   
   >>> doing it by not having the spell-checker   
   >>> work on the field where I   
   >>> typed in the newsgroups that I wanted to   
   >>> post to. I was relying on   
   >>> that spell-checker to warn me if I was   
   >>> making any errors. Wasn't even   
   >>> worrying about having to get the   
   >>> spelling   
   >>> right. But it turns out the   
   >>> darn thing don't work except down here   
   >>> in   
   >>> the window where you write   
   >>> in the body of the post. So I   
   >>> crossposted   
   >>> to talk.religion.buddism -   
   >>> which is a newsgroup that don't even   
   >>> exist.   
   >>>   
   >>> Now you come along and tell me the world   
   >>> was giving me a hint to shut   
   >>> up and stop dropping shoes. What kind of   
   >>> causality is that? If I got   
   >>> to drop the shoe before I get the hint,   
   >>> what good is it? On the other   
   >>> hand, if you're trying to tell me that I   
   >>> should have learned how to   
   >>> spell when I was a young-un in school,   
   >>> why   
   >>> not just come right out and   
   >>> say it instead of all this round-a-bout   
   >>> talk about shoes?   
   >>>   
   >>> Back three or four days ago, before I   
   >>> was   
   >>> enlightened, I might just a   
   >>> took your word for it and said, "Yeah,   
   >>> that man is right. There ain't   
   >>> no sense going around dropping shoes   
   >>> when   
   >>> all I wanted to do was get   
   >>> some advice on how I should tell pastor   
   >>> Bill that I'm enlightened now   
   >>> and don't need nobody preaching at me   
   >>> anymore." But that was before I   
   >>> was enlightened, so right there you got   
   >>> another problem with cause and   
   >>> effect.   
   >>>   
   >>>>> On Thu, 03 May 2012 11:04:56 -0700,   
   >>>>> Silas Dollar   
   >>>>>   wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> I was up in the hills the other day,   
   >>>>>> paying my respects at the old   
   >>>>>> mountain cemetery when I looked up   
   >>>>>> and   
   >>>>>> saw this big old buzzard   
   >>>>>> sitting on a boulder. He give me this   
   >>>>>> beady-eyed look that was like to   
   >>>>>> make my skin crawl and then he   
   >>>>>> flapped   
   >>>>>> them scruffy old wings and   
   >>>>>> flapped off.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> I guess it might a had something to   
   >>>>>> do   
   >>>>>> with all them neglected and   
   >>>>>> overgrowed graves, but right of a   
   >>>>>> sudden I was enlightened. So I sat   
   >>>>>> myself down on a rock and said to   
   >>>>>> myself, "Silas... you has always   
   >>>>>> been a good Christian, but now you're   
   >>>>>> enlightened just like one of   
   >>>>>> them heathen Buddhists. What are you   
   >>>>>> going to do with yourself?"   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> "Well," I said to myself, "for   
   >>>>>> starters, it don't do no good to talk   
   >>>>>> to myself like this. And besides, now   
   >>>>>> that I'm enlightened I don't   
   >>>>>> have to do a blasted thing with   
   >>>>>> myself.   
   >>>>>> I just have to let myself be."   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> "You gotta do something," my self   
   >>>>>> insisted, "What you going to tell   
   >>>>>> folks come a Sunday when they want   
   >>>>>> you   
   >>>>>> to go to church?"   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Well, being enlightened, I know that   
   >>>>>> my   
   >>>>>> self ain't my real self anyhow   
   >>>>>> and don't have all that much wisdom,   
   >>>>>> but I been getting this notion   
   >>>>>> that I ought to go down to the church   
   >>>>>> and let Pastor Bill and the   
   >>>>>> flock know I'm enlightened and don't   
   >>>>>> need nobody preaching at me now.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> I figure Buddhists must run into this   
   >>>>>> kind of thing all the time, so I   
   >>>>>> was wondering if anyone had any   
   >>>>>> suggestions.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >><<>some advice on how I should tell pastor   
   >>Bill   
   >>that I'm enlightened now   
   >>and don't need nobody preaching at me   
   >>anymore." >>>   
   >>   
   >>you could tell him you don't need him   
   >>preaching at you anymore, whether or not   
   >>you   
   >>are enlightened.   
   >>   
   >>i'm not sure what your problem is.  you   
   >>sure   
   >>you have one?   
   >   
   > I don't have no problem, but pastor Bill   
   > is my cousin and some of the   
   > congregation also is kin. I remember a   
   > time back in the old days when   
   > Della Hastings told the old pastor -   
   > Pastor Mike was the pastor in   
   > them days - that she was switching over to   
   > being a Methodist. They got   
   > up a committee to beat the devil out of   
   > her. Poor woman was never the   
   > same after that.   
   >   
   > I ain't saying that pastor Bill would try   
   > to take that route with me.   
   > He ain't naturally violent and I could   
   > probably whip him and three of   
   > his deacons, but now that I'm enlightened   
   > I see things different. I   
   > don't see the point in confrontation. I'm   
   > a thinking of just   
   > high-tailing it out of town. I'm sort of   
   > old to be on the road again,   
   > and there's my bum knee to consider, but   
   > what the heck, I guess I'll   
   > see how it goes. I might even bump into   
   > one of them Bodhisattva   
   > fellows and maybe we can sit around and   
   > jaw about one thing and   
   > another for an hour or two.   
   >   
   > Before I take off I want to thank all you   
   > kind folks for your help and   
   > advice. Been a pleasure talking with   
   > y'all.   
      
   same here.  have a good journey.   
      
   possum   
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