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   XPost: alt.zen, alt.religion.buddhism.tibetan   
   From: 8.tim.harris@gmail.com   
      
   On Sep 17, 9:20 pm, Wet Paper Bag    
   wrote:   
      
   > > but can you teach from the thrones of pain?   
   >   
   > that's why you need a super hero nick name peter.   
      
   it helps.   
      
   > i know and have mastered zen and tao. conqueror of all enlightenment and   
   > karma free... it can be done.   
      
   time to get a grip on the spell checker. lol.   
      
   do you see the dharma-karma now? can you discriminate between right   
   action and wrong action? what is the measure? relief?... do you feel   
   better when you know what we have done to this world and yet, look   
   around, see all those cars and airlines... no one cares. tell them   
   they will die of cancer in two years and they freak, find the lord,   
   give their heart to me, be nice, mend fences... but tell them in two   
   years they will be ripping one another a part in an circle of Hell and   
   they are like... hey man, live in the moment, it is all good.   
      
   the Jews want us to rip the world away from their cold dead fingers   
   and i think we should do it... or allowing things to continue peter...   
   what thought is right here when it comes to compassion? mercy?   
   salvation?   
      
   non action can, at times, be wrong action. but do you think there is a   
   karma to it?   
      
   > but i can not explain it to you any more than you can see me sitting   
   > in my gitch, drinking a coffee, listening to tunes. bored of   
   > everything peter.... what a sweet release.   
      
   what is bored peter? can awareness feel bored? it does not require   
   conscious object and in fact is the absence of such that is the   
   feeling.   
      
   > to teach what i know peter. that i can do. it begins by getting you   
   > out of the corner where you see one or the other and you fear both. i   
   > have to engage you, become uglier than you, lower, more obscene... to   
   > engage that holy fight. to raise the sacred warrior... in you.   
      
   good destroys evil. evil destroys evil. neither good nor evil destroy   
   good. be good.   
      
   > it can not be accomplished unless a method of great pain is engaged by   
   > myself. judgement of others. but...   
      
   now you get it. they are drowning. what do all rescuers know peter? as   
   much as you want to get in there and be the hero, if you get to close   
   they will drag you down. sometimes, you have to give them a swift hard   
   kick to the face. sometimes peter, you have to let them drown....   
   before you can save them. "did you see that mable? that devil just   
   kicked that boy in the face... what an asshole."   
      
   > we pull you out of that fire, that corner where only darkness,   
   > frustration, hopelessness and despair have found you...   
      
   no one understands peter. enlightenment has never gripped an entire   
   world before... but then along came this internet thing. the weather   
   you have created is not what is going to fuck you up. the world, as it   
   is, is. wpb may have a point. can you look on ugliness and disgust and   
   not turn away? isn't that what you are training yourself to do?   
      
   > then we split you and stand you in two places... then, peter, you will   
   > see it... but only then.   
      
   brilliant.   
      
   > and you, newbie with all your love, happy faces, kind words and ass   
   > kissing... are not ready to handle the Wet Paper Bag, not even close.   
   > she is your hat blowing in the wind and you in hot pursuit kicking it   
   > and stumbling on it and reaching, grabbing, lunging, falling down,   
   > getting covered in dirt and shit and piss and puke and getting up with   
   > hell in those eyes and chasing it some more...   
      
   hahaha... me thinks his holy spirit is filling... let go of the cup   
   peter.   
      
   > you pick up your hat, dust your self off and now, then, you will see   
   > where i have lead you...   
      
   "unh." nice set up, excellent delivery.   
      
   > you must fight. because when those cock sucking Jews walk over one of   
   > us, they walk over us all...   
      
   the battlefield is in your mind peter. as master tang says, it is   
   mental. when i get bored i start thinking about magick. now whether or   
   not i enact a spell, it has already effected me. my perception. and my   
   perception molds what i see. but it doesn't change the physics.   
      
   odd isn't it? as Tim you see one thing, as Wet Paper Bag, you see   
   another. why is that? you read tang there and you are all jumping up   
   and down and begging for admiration and yet here... you see monkey and   
   laugh... but here you cry...  like standing in two places isn't it?   
   there is nothing between them but the tao.   
      
   > how do you feel about what i just wrote?... this warning is free, and   
   > i do not want to talk about it again with you... you do not listen;   
   > that is why you can not remember, too much chatter of what?...   
   > peter... only you can fill in the gaps.   
      
   tao.   
      
   > the above is a modern paraphrase of the bhagavad gita. so when you   
   > argue with me, you argue with them... but you can argue with me   
   > first... and then the rest of alt.zen will devour you.   
   >   
   > jump   
      
   don't jump.   
      
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    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)