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|    New research challenges stereotypical vi    |
|    15 Mar 16 09:21:42    |
      XPost: alt.religion.buddhism.tibetan, cn.culture.buddhism, talk.       eligion.buddhism       XPost: tw.bbs.soc.religion.buddhism, uk.religion.buddhist       From: peter.terpstra7@gmail.com              New research challenges stereotypical views of Tibet as an isolated and       inward-looking society before the British and Chinese       arrived.       University of Cambridge · Jun 21, 2015 · 07:30 pm              A study by Tibetan scholar Lobsang Yongdan revisits a long-ignored section of       a historic text to reveal how Tibetans were       engaging with western scientific knowledge two centuries ago. His research       into a geography of the world, first published by a       lama in 1830, challenges stereotypical views of Tibet as an isolated and       inward-looking society.              Early in the 1800s, a Tibetan lama travelled from Drepung monastery in Lhasa       to Beijing. The journey of more than 2,000 miles       would have taken him around four months. As an important Buddhist leader, he       may well have been conveyed most of the way       in       a sedan chair. On the way, his retinue would have fallen in with travellers       from other lands and heard unfamiliar languages.       Perhaps this journey wakened the young lama’s natural curiosity about the       world’s geography and its peoples, their customs and       characteristics.              No-one knows why Btsan po no mon han wrote the remarkable Tibetan text, the       Dzam gling rgyas shad , referred to as DGRB,       which translates as The Detailed Description of the World. First published in       Mongolia in 1830, the book is in several parts,       divided by continent and country. The section that describes Tibet, which       comprises less than a quarter of the text, has been       translated into European languages and has become one of Tibet’s most-read       classics. The remainder of the text, however, has       not been widely researched in the west.              Entire text              Research by Lobsang Yongdan, a PhD candidate in the Department of Social       Anthropology, now sets the entire text of the       DGRB into a more deeply informed historical, political, anthropological       context. In particular, Yongdan shows through his tracing       of the many influences apparent in the book just how widely its author       interacted with other thinkers in the intellectual circles of       early 19th-century Beijing which was host to missions, trading posts and       diplomats from many parts of the world.              “As a Tibetan, I come from a country that has been a magnet for western       anthropologists who are drawn to the integrity and       ‘otherness’ of its culture. I began my academic career as a historian of       Tibet but in studying the DGRB within a western       framework, I have taken an anthropological approach in order to look at the       text from multiple viewpoints in terms of spiritual       belief systems and history of science as well as national and cultural       identities,” said Yongdan.       “I am myself the ‘otherness’ because I am that ‘native’ or ‘local       informant’ on whom anthropologists rely to conduct interviews       and to obtain information. Returning to the places where I was born, grew up       and was educated is not the typical model for       conventional anthropological inquiry. However, I considered that by going to       back to Tibet and conducting my inquiries at       Kumbum monastery, I was carrying out ‘anthropology at home’, an approach       that is making an increasingly important       contribution.”              Patchy interest              Historically, interest in the DGRB has been patchy. From the later 19th       century onwards, Europeans focused on the section of       the       text that deals with Tibet as a useful source of information. Tibetans, on the       other hand, were much more intrigued by the       sections       that describe the world beyond their borders.              Yongdan is uniquely qualified to research the DGRB and its author. He was       raised in Dobi in Amdo, north east Tibet. As a boy       he       joined a monastery and it was there that he first read the DGRB. Fluent in       Tibetan, Chinese and English and conversant with the       practice and literature of Tibetan Buddhism, Yongdan brings a multi-cultural       viewpoint to his study of the text. “I first studied       Btsan po’s work as a young Tibetan monk trying to understand the history of       my country and how Tibetans studied world       geography in earlier times,” he said. “I’ve spent the past four years       looking in detail at the geographical conceptualisation, the       creation of, and responses to the work.”              Lama's life              Only the sketchiest of details are known about Btsan po. He was born in 1789       in U lan mu ru in Amdo. Identified as a fourth       reincarnation of third Btsan po no mon han, Ngag dbang ’phrin las rgya       mtsho, he may have entered the Gser khog monastery as       young as two. As a child, he would have been taught Buddhist logic, literature       and cosmology. From 1808, he studied at Drepung       monastery, one of the largest monasteries in Lhasa. He passed away in Beijing       1839, the year that marked the first Opium War       between the Manchu and the British.              Around 1814, Btsan po travelled to Beijing to become a spiritual leader to the       Qing emperor. During his long residence in Beijing,       Btsan po read early Jesuit works of geography and became friendly with members       of the Russian orthodox mission in Beijing.       He       met European scholars and diplomats, scientists and conversed with them on       matters of world geography and the events of the       day. The country-by-country descriptions in the book contain evidence of his       encounters.              Yongdan reveals that Btsan po embarked on the compilation of a detailed world       geography of his own volition, and as a Tibetan       intellectual engaged with western knowledge on an equal footing with Europeans       and others. In this respect, his research       challenges the accepted view of geography – as a rational or scientific way       to study lands, their inhabitants, and features of the       physical world – as an exclusively European enterprise shared with the rest       of the world.              He said:       “Western discourse tends to make a sharp distinction between ‘religious’       and ‘scientific’ geography. Geography compiled with       religious motivations is often regarded as ‘cosmography’ and depicted as       belonging to the super-terrestrial realms, with little or no              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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